Posted By Austin Yorski about 10 months, 2 weeks ago
In a message posted on Steam this morning, Valve has announced (or specifically highlighted, rather) a change in the End-User License Agreement for Steam. Specifically, the “Steam Subscriber Agreement” has been updated so that users who agree to its terms will no longer be able to take part in class action lawsuits against the company and its digital distribution platform. The news post explains the decision fully:
“We considered this change very carefully. It’s clear to us that in some situations, class actions have real benefits to customers. In far too many cases however, class actions don’t provide any real benefit to users and instead impose unnecessary expense and delay, and are often designed to benefit the class action lawyers who craft and litigate these claims. Class actions like these do not benefit us or our communities. We think this new dispute resolution process is faster and better for you and Valve while avoiding unnecessary costs, and that it will therefore benefit the community as a whole.”
While this is the biggest news coming out of the updated SSA, it’s not the only change. Steam also has a new way to deal with customer service issues that exceed normal parameters, as such cases will now be individually brought to small-claims court. However, “Valve will reimburse your costs of the arbitration for claims under a certain amount. Reimbursement by Valve is provided regardless of the arbitrator’s decision, provided that the arbitrator does not determine the claim to be frivolous or the costs unreasonable.”
On one hand, this is far from an unprecedented move. Pretty much every corporation with an digital distribution platform has such a clause, including Microsoft and Sony. It’s also an unprecedented act of transparency, as every previous major controversy over EULAs has come after some intrepid sleuth had combed through the legal jargon with a fine-toothed comb. However, in the interest of fairness, it is a shame to see one of gaming’s most beloved companies seemingly trying to dodge large-scale responsibility in the case of some unforeseen future catastrophe. The claims court system clause is interesting, but likely irrelevant to the large majority of Steam users.
That is, unless you bought Train Simulator during the Summer Sale–I won’t blame you for suing over that.
Source: Steam

I like the fact Gabe is cosplaying as Chris Chan in that photo
There is a paragraph in the german EULA. It says roughly:
“If you are not a Citizen of the USA, this regulations maybe not count to you.”
http://o13.img-up.net/Zwischenaba15a.png
Seem that the Valve legal team is cleaver then the Mircosoft one, that dont seem to care that their EULA may be nul and void in EU as it can be considered not legal binding, even after someone points this out to them, they still didnt seem to care.
This can actual give them more problems then it solves.
I am from Denmark, but this also count for many others living in EU, we cant not sign an agrement that gives up our legal rights.
Meaning that part of the EULA does not count, and worse it coud make the whole EULA nul and void.
Think of it this way, Steam bannes you, so cant play your games, you can then sue them for taking products, you payed for, away from you, even when it is in their EULA the reason for the ban, it dont count. Becouse without the EULA, normal rules count, meaning that Valve is actual stealing from you by taking products away from you that you payed for.
Does anyone understand that clauses like these shows the complete vileness of characters like these, people who think they are above the law? Does anyone also understand they mean absolutely nothing, considering that a clause in a user agreement does not supersede the laws of the fucking land?
If you start a class action suit, that clause and the courts won’t care… well, as long as those courts aren’t corrupt and care about the huge bribe that’ll be coming their way… okay, you’re fucked.
Sorry, but you are wrong if you are from USA, as their cout has rule this is legal.
I’m not from the USA, and I seriously doubt if you start a class action or join it there’s anything they can do to stop it, especially considering they simply changed the EULA.
Also if it is indeed case, what the hell is wrong with you American that you just let this shit happen. Get to your Senator have this bullshit changed. It is utterly ridiculous that corporations have so much power that with a change of wording in some document they can tell the law of your country to take a hike.
Imagine if that can be done by citizens; grab a paper, grab a pen, and write: “The law of murder does not apply to me, I may murder anyone I want.” If the rules governing corporation would apply to you, you can murder people and the cops and courts can’t do anything to stop you. Hell, when does the ICT company EULA come out that states, “If we don’t like your complaining, we reserve the right to kill you.” The company can now have you legally killed.
Well, the legal system in USA has made this a legal thing they can do.
They cant just put anything in the EULA they want, it has to be legal.
I find it perplexing that companies can decide what kinds of lawsuits are applied towards them in EULAs. In that case what’s stopping them from just saying “By using our product you agree that you can’t sue us ever for anything”? Laws are weird.
The USA legal system decides that, and has choosen to make it legal in USA.
I remember when another company did this and people complained that they were the worst company in the world. I want to see if Valve fanboys come out of the woodwork to say this is completely just– like any other fanboys would have done.
What’s wrong with Train Simulator? Is there something I should know? I got it because it was an ok deal and thought it might be interesting to try. At least I didn’t get the $50 dollar DLC-errific pack.
There’s nothing wrong with Train Simulator. I was just referencing a joke from the BT Podcast: http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2012/07/bt-podcast-11-death-by-furbies/
Well, I could say that it’s not really much of a train sim without this: http://www.amazon.com/RailDriver-Desktop-Train-Cab-Controller-PC/dp/B0002APWXS
… but that’s not really a grave problem with the game itself.
I dont think they are the worst, nor did I with Mircosoft, there are companies the are a lot worse then some software companies.
I havnt look over the EULA to see if thise it also in the EULA for ppl outside USA, if it is, it just means Valve’s legal team is as dum as Mircosoft’s.
I am jealous of Gabe Newell, he must lick and sniff the beta disc for HL 3 every morning
That might explain why it takes so long to make it. He keeps ruining the only copy they have.
I am only half jealous of Gabe Newell, does that mean I am half a lair?
I like the money, girls and power, but I am also happy I am not even half his size.
You know what they say about big men, they aren’t very healthy and need to finish projects fast TT.TT
Thanks for deciding what’s best for your own customers Valve.
I know the internet is full of Valve fan boys but I’ve never really been a fan.
It also bears mentioning that even if you do something like this, it doesn’t completely shield you from large-scale lawsuits, just that if one was about to start, they have an extra bargaining chip to TRY to dismiss the motion.