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Minecraft sucks.

Minecraft sucks.

Minecraft sucks. Find out why in this week’s Heart of Gaming. Fanboy discretion advised.



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  1. June 25, 2012 at 01:57pm
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    first of all, the frequent comebacks from minecraft “fans” you mentioned, are actually coming from the consumist end of the deal. at first, I didn’t see what the fuzz was all about, but once I got into the game, I liked it. the game is pretty much a set of virtual legos, I’ll give you that, and I actually have a fun time building stuff on survival, using only what I can mine…and keep safe from the creepers. on the graphics issue…no…absolutely NO…it’s not supposed to look “retro”…it’s supposed to be loading a freaking ton of data, and proccesing the graphics for them at the same time! even if you can’t see it, so it runs smoothly and seamlessly. if you want beatiful graphics, you’d have to expect the game to load every 20 steps or so, with the game as it is now, you can see a room you built on the side of an effing hill at your horizon, about 50 or 60 blocks away (or more, I actually can’t remember). I won’t say you have to love this game, I can relate to people getting bored, or not atracted to it at all, but…saying it’s shit…that’s going too far, man…there’s a ton of aaa games that are worst that minecraft, and with several times its budget (and of course…let’s not talk about other indie games…). I won’t say minecraft is an acquired taste, but it certainly isn’t for everybody…you either love it…or you see it’s worthless as sh*t

  2. June 10, 2012 at 02:55am
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    Let me just start this off by saying, I hate you. I know that you said you weren’t attacking the fans of Minecraft but when you go and insult the game like you did, well, you did attack the fans. I love minecraft, its a great game with (regardless of you ignorant opinion) great graphics that’s genuinely fun to play. I can agree that minecraft is exactly ‘user-friendly’ but remember that minecraft is a game where you come out as a character all by him/herself in the world. The survival mode in minecraft is just that, survival, in which you have to find out how to make your own tools and get your own food and survive. One Your Own. Besides, even if you cant figure something out then they do have a FAQ guide, Videos, and helpful fans to explain the game right on minecrafts website. Along with that keep in mind that minecraft may have been officially released but that doesn’t mean its done, Minecraft is a working progress where they constantly fix bugs, add patches and update. If something doesn’t work exactly right, wait around and I’m sure it will be fixed. You also mentioned that the fighting was bland, that the mobs had no AI and just ran at you, But then you turned around and said that the game was based around building so do you really expect the fighting to be a technological marvel, besides the mobs AI’s did get an upgrade and are much smarter now. And even when the AI’s were dumb fighting was still a challenge, couple that with the fact that you have to get food and shelter and you have a real challenge to survive.Then there’s one of the most important aspects of the game, Mining. The mining system in minecraft is so complex that every time you go mining is different. You can have a great time where you find stacks of all sorts of ore, and then you can have a trip where you find a big dungeon and have to beat zombies back armed with nothing but a pickaxe. I also saw that you didn’t go over minecrafts divers world generator. This crucial point of minecraft is very important in a review, It make a whole new world every time, to where not even a single stone is that same. Then there’s crafting. This is by far one of the best things about this game. It lets you make everything from swords to jack-o-lanterns to torches to stew with only a 3 by 3 square. I was very surprised that you didn’t even touch on it in the video. Onto graphics, If you think that game looks bad, get a new texture pack, If you still think it looks bad, change up the setting a little, If you still think it looks bad, build with a different material. There are thousands of solutions to that problem you had with the graphics. To sum up, I think minecraft is a top notch game full of all sorts of possibilities a things to do, As a final sentence. SCREW YOU HATER MAN, I HOPE YOU, YOUR PARENTS, AND YOUR DOG GET SHOT IN AN ALLEY!!! Thanks for reading

  3. April 23, 2012 at 12:20am
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    The fact remains that you communicated poorly. When a bunch of people interpret what you say as an attack, then the problem is with you and not with them. Your show is flawed if new viewers can’t tell that you are joking.

    Stop with this attitude of you being right and them being wrong. It’s not reasonable to expect new viewers to go through your entire show catalog to figure out that your character is a jerk in order to be funny. It’s not reasonable to expect them to have the right sense of humor to know that it’s funny.

    Now, I’ve seen your other videos. I know you’re not really the jerk that Leon is. But if I just had your responses in this thread to go by, I wouldn’t know that. If you are going to continue to make videos people can misinterpret, please work on damage control.

    But, better yet, keep trying things until you find a way to make it where the majority of people just won’t misinterpret you. All other comics have to do that.

  4. March 16, 2012 at 06:37pm
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    Here …. Real Life MineCraft … http://brickartist.com/

  5. March 16, 2012 at 06:34pm
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    Minecraft is virtual LEGOs in my opinion ….
    The guy that invented LEGOs just invented a bunch of blocks that YOU can build anything you want with ….

  6. March 09, 2012 at 10:30pm
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    I don’t play Minecraft, but I do watch Leon’s videos, and will continue to do so. Found this one to be interesting and kind of up there with the “Prophet” discussion in the way of feedback it seems to be getting.

  7. March 08, 2012 at 10:14pm
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    If we could use fan-rage to generate electricity, we’d never need fossil fuels again.

  8. March 07, 2012 at 01:43am
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    Hey guys, why would a man knowing that Minecraft has a huge fanbase post the tagline “Minecraft sucks. Find out why?”

    Because he knows a bunch of people will watch it.

    You know what else might be important to take into account?

    THESE GUYS GET PAID WHENEVER YOU CLICK ON THEIR VIDEOS AND THE ADS START RUNNING. They get paid whether you agree with them or not.

    Putting these two things together, let’s hazard a few guesses as to why this video was made…

    • March 08, 2012 at 02:10am
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      Ok, then all we need to do is make a video of how Minecraft is awesome and get paid too :D

      How do i get paid? Do i need to use a specific video website? Do i need X ammount of suscribers to get paid? Most of the time the Ad doesnt play up, does that mean that he will get pay anyway? Is it restricted to a certain country

    • March 08, 2012 at 05:15am
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      Coming back on this page to comment on this video without loading it still gives him money?

    • March 16, 2012 at 06:26pm
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      Yea, it’s their job ….
      It’s like when you go to the store , they bullshit you into buying stuff .. cuz its their job .. lol
      And why would you watch videos if it offends you that much they get paid for it ?
      I just think you like Minecraft & are pissed off at what he said …
      I like Minecraft fine , but what he says is true ….

  9. March 06, 2012 at 12:57am
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    I don’t play minecraft. I don’t like minecraft. I probably will never play minecraft.

    And yet, this video managed to even get under MY skin.

  10. March 05, 2012 at 11:42pm
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    I am sorry to say but you sound like my dad, and that is not a good thing. My dad turned from it from for pretty much the same reasons you stated and I think it is a very narrow minded perspective. I have not ever used any mods on Minecraft, but I love the game. I actually like that it is not a traditional game. Sure, it has is problems but the way you are stating things blatantly attacks the developers, the game, and the community. You say you are not going after the community but I say that you are. You even state ‘fanboys’ should have discretion when you by saying that just convince them to hit the play button. I feel that this is a true failure of trying to convey a message. It matters little what your history is on the site. It is mean spirited and makes people feel like they are being looked down on just because they like a game. I hope you realize that if you did this purposely that it will not be as accepted as Spoony’s accidental stir up with Final Fantasy fans.

  11. March 05, 2012 at 07:53pm
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    Okay. I’m going to rant about one thing and one thing only, the idea that the graphics are the way they are because of a “retro” look.

    Do any of the people commenting here have any idea how much this game would crash if it had modern graphics? There are literally millions upon millions of blocks, hundreds of creatures and enemies, and an entire inventory system, with items of varying uses. Do you have any idea how much memory and processing power is required for all of this?! And the entire game has to save all this data as you move throughout the world. This entire game would be completely impossible to play if the creator made the graphics even on par with the N64.

    It’s not about being retro, it’s about actually being able to run the damn game.

  12. March 05, 2012 at 06:32pm
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    While this game, obviously, isn’t for him, he is being MEGA myopic! The game is, easily, an A minus; for good reason, too, as it is one of the best games from it’s year. There is no point trying, to reason with this numbnut. Like there is no reason trying, to reason with a homophobe. He’s wrong, and any smart guy knows that so move on.

  13. March 05, 2012 at 07:45am
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    “This is the least user-friendly game I’ve encountered in a while.”

    I’m not going to argue that. I’ll even say that for me, it’s the least user-friendly game I’ve encountered EVER. Oh yeah, I did have to Google every aspect of how to play this game, watch YouTube videos, google what things are and how to use or make them, and I STILL have to look up how to use and make and find everything added to the game in updated versions. There is NO way to figure this out by just playing the game, as far as I know. I don’t think it’s possible to just start playing the game and figure out how to do ANYTHING in it without reading a guide somewhere.

    “The graphics suck.”

    Yup, they sure do. You can download mods to make them look better, but mostly… the game looks like what it is. Digital LEGOs. That “trying to make the game look retro” line sounds like someone making up a load of crap because they didn’t want to say that you’re really just playing with blocks like a 2-year-old, but with a computer and a LOT more blocks than most 2-year-olds have.

    I don’t personally have a problem with the graphics because I feel like they’re at least consistent and… that’s just what the game looks like. Maybe I’m not a gamer and therefor I don’t get the appeal of having “good” graphics, but honestly if the game is fun, I don’t care what it looks like.

    “You push a button and swing a sword…”

    Yup. But now you’re making the mistake of thinking of this game as a fighting game. It’s not. It’s still just playing with LEGOs but the creators figured out a way to make that slightly more exciting. Which you can turn off. Yeah, you can turn off the monsters and just wander around and explore the world and find shit and build shit. That’s what I do, and that’s what everyone I’ve ever played with on servers does. That’s the game. You mine stuff, you build stuff, if you turn on monsters the game makes it more challenging and hypothetically exciting for you to do that, but that’s still all you do.

    “It spawned an amazing fanbase and convention.”

    I give no fucks about this at all and don’t have anything to do with it.

    “The graphics are supposed to look retro…”

    I still can’t believe anyone actually uses this BS line to “defend” a non-issue with the game. And besides, if you don’t like it, you can mod it.

    “You just don’t get it.”

    This one I’ll get behind, because it’s very clear from this review that you’re expecting something from this game that it was never intended to give you. Oh, I’m not saying it’s a “well-made game.” I’m not saying your OTHER points aren’t valid. But the game has fans because there are a lot of people who just like building shit out of LEGOs… but real life LEGOs are expensive so fuck that, MINECRAFT! You’re overcomplicating this game. I don’t need to make excuses for this game because there’s only one real question here:

    1. Do you want to play with LEGOs but your mom threw them out or you lost them or gave them away since you were a kid?
    (1b. Like… really play with actual LEGOs? The loudly-colored sharp blocks of blockness that you could, with enough patience, force into really elaborate but still blocky and brightly-colored fortresses and machines and monsters?)
    (1c. Do you also want the option to make playing with LEGOs slightly more challenging by letting your bin of blocks create monsters that explode and blow your ass up, taking with it a corner of whatever you were building at the time?)

    If yes, Minecraft.

    If no, any other game in existence.

    It’s just that simple. You don’t need a huge computer with a zillion megagigs of RAMemory. You don’t need an uber graphics card or whatever the fuck…. you just need to open the game and build stuff.

    And then you take screenshots of it or video capture it and post it to YouTube and let people marvel at your creative use of squares to make really neat shit.

    It’s like ASCII art in 3 dimensions. You don’t have to LIKE it, but what YOU fail to address is the question of whether or not it does what it is INTENDED to do.

    It does do that. It does it very well, with a number of different options as to how you want the game to let you do what it was designed to do. But that’s all it does. You bring up some very valid points, but you present them without taking the game’s actual intentions into account. You’re criticizing TETRIS for not letting you run around a screen with a yellow sphere eating dots and running away from ghosts.

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    First time viewer first time commenter, Is this a review/opinion show, or a let’s bitch for 10 min show. Telling me what looks good or bad and your “it’s just my opinion but i’m right” attitude is soooo anoying. And I hope you were joking with “Why does everything bad have to come from europe?” Sheesh just shut up.

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    At first I was skeptical, but speaking objectively this guy actually raises some excellent points.

    Minecraft is indeed a piece of garbage O_o

    • March 05, 2012 at 02:37am
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      Just because you log in under a different name doesn’t mean we don’t know it is you Leon.

    • March 05, 2012 at 12:08pm
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      He’s not speaking “objectively” he’s going by his opinion.

  16. March 04, 2012 at 10:17pm
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    Hm… well, I’m afraid I must agree with most people here: this isn’t a good video. All its points aren’t well thought out at all.

    Firstly, Minecraft isn’t user friendly? Well, duh! Of course it isn’t! But you could make that argument about a lot of great games like the original Legend of Zelda, a game that started by plopping you down into the middle of nowhere and leaving you to die. Yet that was part of its appeal in the end; you had the world all to yourself and it was up to you to discover its secrets and conquer it like a real man, and the only reason you’d call it a bad game is if you want to take an axe to your credibility. Minecraft is a little better than Zelda in that area though because its achievement list is a psuedo-tutorial, pointing you in the right direction without holding your hand as if you’re a baby. That’s more than Zelda ever did.

    As for the graphics, since we’re living at a point in history where graphics aren’t going to get much better through technological advances, the question we need to start asking is not what creates good graphics, but what creates a compelling aesthetic. Mega Man 9 and 10 work with retro graphics because classic Mega Man’s heart and soul is 8-bit. Minecraft also works with low-res retro graphics because they are consistent with its abstract “cubist” aesthetic. It’s not designed to emulate the real world as closely as possible and it doesn’t pretend to, instead choosing a unique style and running with it, which is what most games should do these days. Best of all, if you still don’t like the graphics, there are thousands of replacements you can download.

    The simple combat could be criticized if that was the game’s main focus, but it isn’t. Minecraft is a creativity toy that happens to include monsters, and the monsters are actually surprisingly varied with tactics including charging, strafing, shooting, climbing, flying, swarming, and even self-destructing. The terrain is probably the greatest factor in combat, which is as it should be since that’s one of Minecraft’s greatest strengths.

    The only thing this review gets right is how the fanbase is largely responsible for Minecraft’s success, just like how the bronies are responsible for the success of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. But sizable healthy fanbases like what Minecraft boasts don’t form around things that are clearly bad. Fans gather because they see the good in something, and if there’s a lot of good in something, a fanbase will naturally grow and grow. Though fans can get REALLY annoying at times, they’re always an ecosystem that can help to determine the health and quality of what they revolve around. Because Minecraft encourages creativity and sharing, it’s built up a very robust fanbase that testifies to its worth, and failing to see that worth is a bad reflection on oneself, not the fans or the game.

    Probably the most generous word one can use to describe this review is “boring”. It’s very telling that the host couldn’t find any gameplay footage to support his points, and combined with the monotone voice and monochrome video, it feels more like one of those cheesy PSA videos designed to brainwash elementary school children. It even succumbs to Godwin’s Law halfway through. The one thing it does really well is attempt to kill off the IQ points of the viewer.

    You don’t have to like a game, but if a game is critically lauded and sells millions, maybe you should open your mind and see if it has something to teach you instead. I personally hate Final Fantasy 7 after playing it all the way through, yet I recognize that it is a respectful and important game instead of declaring it trash, which is an important part of learning how to criticize games properly. Besides, hateful, ignorant reviewers like Ben “Yahtzee” Croshaw are a dime a dozen these days, so you should do something different to make yourself stand out, or at least go all out with your best Basil Fawlty impersonation.

    • March 08, 2012 at 02:17am
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      The original Zelda game had the decency of coming with a manual. And back then the tech didn’t allow for tutorials in game, today however isnt a excuse. Hell, if you saw Egoraptor take on Megaman X in his series Sequelitis, you will see that even if there isnt a tutorial per se you can still teach the player by making the set pieces to allow the necessary mental processes to ENCOURAGE such behavior. Thing that Minecraft does not even with the potential that the NPC have for teaching you in their normal lives even if they like you or not.

      Here is the post that i mentioned earlier in an attempt to actually make the game not suck, and its a lot better than a short video that doesn’t elaborate.

      https://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/compilation_of_ideas_of_npc_ai_npc_technology_traits_leyends_live_on_mode_utility_mobs_tutorial_posibilities

      • March 08, 2012 at 03:29am
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        Huh… those are actually rather nice ideas in that link there. It’s a LOT to choke down in one reading, but just skimming it shows creative minds at work. I love the dreaming idea especially.

        I guess I can grant that Mojang seems to have taken their immense fanbase for granted on that front, figuring that they’ll find out how to play some way or another on their own. Come to think of it, I REALLY would have loved built-in instructions regarding Redstone circuitry, the one part of the game that regularly confounds me. But since Minecraft is more of a toy than a standard video game, I think it’s one of the few games in the world that can get away with its minimal amount of instruction, even though more definitely wouldn’t have hurt. In fact, when you think of it more like a model kit or an erector set, having to seek out supplemental reading seems much more normal.

        Besides, I never found Legend of Zelda’s instruction manual that helpful. Even after rereading a .pdf of it, like most game manuals it doesn’t cover more than the basics, the stuff that most people can figure out themselves by playing a little bit. There are a few helpful notes in it, but it doesn’t provide any clues about the REALLY obtuse stuff, like blowing the whistle to reveal a dungeon or what that old man means when he says, “EASTERN PENINSULA IS THE SECRET”. You know, the parts of the game where people are most likely to throw down the controller and quit. And yet, despite those shortcomings, it’s still considered one of the greatest games ever made.

        The idea that the technology for making tutorials didn’t exist back then is just absurd though. An in-game tutorial or even instructional screen is not such a complex concept that it couldn’t have been done on the NES. (Heck, it WAS done on the NES in games like Kirby’s Adventure.) I think it’s more that in the early days having no tutorial was more of the accepted style, though not necessarily for good reasons. Some games were made deliberately nigh-impossible just to encourage repeated rentals from the local video store.

        Anyway, suffice to say, the lack of instruction is nowhere near enough to ruin Minecraft.

        • March 08, 2012 at 05:12am
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          But what if there was no wiki for Minecraft or even videos about it? The gameplay of Minecraft isnt really that compelling WITHOUT knowing what is in the future. In other words, if people didn’t saw videos on Youtube about it then its most likely that nobody will play more than 1 hour of it because they cant grasp the potential of the game.

          Lets look at an Zelda analog: The Binding of Isaac. That game is hard for some people but if you swallow your pride you can learn about the MANY MANY items you find by trial and error, and the game is quite fun on its own to keep the people interested on replaying it REGARDLESS if there is a wiki or not

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    Pretty much everyone in the comments have said what I would have about this video, but I will point out something I haven’t seen anyone say.
    If you want to do a personal opinion show as opposed to a review show, that’s fine. I question the wisdom of that choice, since personal opinion shows that do not feature well-thought out arguments regarding said opinions do not tend to fare very well (everyone has an opinion. Unless you can explain why your opinion is what it is in a compelling way, people will not care what you have to say and will take offense if you don’t seem to have done your research.) That’s one of the (many) reasons people don’t like the Irate Gamer.
    But if you have chosen to build your show around the principle that you will only be giving your opinion about a game and will not be giving a fair review based on an objective, neutral standpoint, you need to take into consideration the verbiage you use when you talk about it. I’m pretty sure at least 60% of the people who watched this video did so based purely on the fact that it was promoted as “Minecraft sucks. Find out why.” That is not a statement of opinion, it’s a statement of fact. The way that sentence is worded is a value statement. It says that Minecraft is a bad game and you need to be re-educated about it if you think otherwise. It’s not worded as an opinion. As pointed out numerous times above, Minecraft is not a bad game. It’s exactly what it’s meant to be. If you don’t like it, that’s perfectly fine. It’s not for everyone. But it doesn’t suck.
    I’m not familiar with your videos, it’s true. Honestly, I don’t watch most of the videos on BT, and I really only came here because it was on the main page of TGWTG. Based on this video, I don’t think I’ll watch again. However, if you’re determined to use this format of giving purely opinion-based reviews, you need to nail that format down. Make it funny. Commit to a style. And most importantly, don’t insult your fanbase. You’re featured on a site full of people who like Minecraft, and you knew that when you posted this video. Heck, the Video Games Awesome people frequently do mega-shows purely about minecraft. They do it live, and their videos are still better quality than this one is. I’m not saying you should conform to what everyone else thinks of video games; in fact, I wish there were more reviewers on this site that were willing to give counter-reviews on highly popular topics. But you need to do so tastefully.
    Along those same lines, you need to take fan feedback seriously. Your fans are your reason for being on this site, and you need to take what they say to heart. That doesn’t mean you need to bow down to us and heed our every demand, but it does mean you shouldn’t blow us off. Some of your comments on this video seem really defensive, which doesn’t really seem appropriate. When you make a bad video, you should own it and learn from the experience and make better material in the future. Most every contributor on BT and TGWTG has had at least one flop, but they acknowledge it and learn. Heck, the only person I can think of off the top of my head who didn’t take feedback seriously and kept defending himself over and over again in the comments section was the Distressed Watcher, and I gather that’s one of the reasons he’s gone. (I know of plenty others, but still).
    Just food for thought. Take it or leave it, it’s up to you.

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    I must agree on many levels, when I started minecraft I had to look up everything, which is indeed a sign of a bad game. Ai frankly was never an issue because the game is not about combat. but ugly… no not beautiful either but it quite difficult to make a game out of cubes and make it beautiful.
    Calling it retro might be just an excuse for not being able to do it better. But at least now they have had the chance to learn and can now create better games, and frankly I personally would not call it ugly.
    The game is about building things, and although the game doesnt look superb your buildings still look quite good.
    And if the the graphics were as good as you like them to be a lot of players could not build anything they would find “good looking”.
    But the the most important thing about minecraft is, it has a giant replay value which a lot of games which are in fact, better and more entertaining have not.
    I agree that it is not the crown jewel of the indie game world, but a lot of people have fun with it, so do not despair, you “just don t get it” :)

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    I think his funniest joke was when he was talking about making a statue of Chewbacca out of legos (or lego for you Europeans) and putting it on display, “if [he] never wanted to get laid again.”

    Hahaha! “Again”! Oh that’s hilarious. Comedy gold.

    But seriously, I agree with his sentiment but the video lacks pace, decent jokes, his voice is annoying, and the unnecessary jabs at Europe and Iowa seem very out of place in the video. I did get a solid chuckle out of that line, though, so that’s a plus even if it was at his expense.

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    wow this is one of my least favorite videos of the site so far, don´t bother me he don´t like minecraft.

    But the video just had a very negative tone and sounded like it was serious opinions stated, witch is fine, but as the video dosen´t change tone at all, his “joke” (atleast i am hoping it was) about everything bad comes from Europe, sounds like an serious opinion too (don´t think it was) it makes Leon sound like a ignorant tool.

    Overall this video was bad, sounded like he was trying to sound like Brad Jones, but i can tell when he is joking.

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      Pretty sure he’s said in the comments a couple time that this a dark comedy show of sorts, so he was joking a lot of the time.

      Though he doesn’t actually like Minecraft, which is fine because everyone likes different things :)

      I like Minecraft but I liked this video myself.

  21. March 04, 2012 at 03:31pm
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    I like Minecraft but I pretty much agree with you.
    Minecraft is awesome because of modders and people who put effort into making the game better or prettier.

    I never knew who you were until now, so I’ll have to watch your other episodes.

    Also forever lulzing over the butthurt of people who dislike your opinion and think that because you don’t like something they do, they’ve been personally attacked or something.

    Then again those are fanboys and fangirls for you.

    Oh and this isn’t a review show, he’s said that a million times via comments.

  22. March 04, 2012 at 01:24pm
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    As far as I am aware, actual mod support is coming because they hired some fan modders who had a program that loaded and unloaded mods or something.

    While most of it cannot be defended, the block set up is… actually programming related. Because let’s be honest, Three-d building sandbox games are difficult, the blocks allow the scenery to match each other, and makes it easier to keep track of programming wise, and map generation wise.

    Also Notch isn’t working on it anymore as far as I am aware, he has some employees now that have that specifically as their job, and things are slowly improving base game wise.

    (Rain is still jarring as all hell though.)

  23. March 04, 2012 at 12:33pm
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    Its about time someone else Voiced my feelings on Minecraft. Don;t get me wrong, I’m glad people like this game. I also feel its over-rated. Sad art people will give this a low star because they are going to be too much a fan, not accepting that the game gas flaws.

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      I will be the first to admit that Minecraft does have some gas. Hopefully we can just pretend we didn’t hear it and move on.

  24. March 04, 2012 at 08:22am
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    You missed the point.

    …or this is satire. I really want to believe the latter. These are “Not Sure if Serious” levels of obliviousness.

    I don’t even play it myself, by the way, and never have (so you can put away the “mindless fanboy” retort). But I think I can definitely say that this game was very clearly not made to please a person like yourself.

    Minecraft doesn’t suck. You just don’t like it. As this isn’t a very thrilling standpoint on which to found a review, however…

  25. March 04, 2012 at 07:48am
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    Guess this means I’m gonna have to add Blistered Thumbs to my “No visits any more” list of sites that allow content producers specifically troll for views. And it wasn’t even funny. And I hate Minecraft. Nipples.

  26. March 04, 2012 at 06:46am
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    Wow, really? i’m fine with you not liking the game, but here’s a review of your video. i couldn’t even finish the video because of the tone in your voice…or lack there of.

    Totally emotionless and sounding like a 4th grader standing on a blank stage being stared at while you yourself read from a script. Put some more emotion into your videos, it made me sad to have to listen to the blandness of your voice while you’re obviously trying to keep up with your script. i could hear you …trying…to sound like you’re not just reading, but it was more than obvious.

    What i agree with:

    This game is fairly bland, some graphics are dull and unappealing and the AI is shit. The archery and fighting are awful.

    What you SHOULD see in this game.

    You get to build things like castles or houses that you dream up…or even remember from your childhood. You plan it out in your head, adjust as necessary then sit back and enjoy, in this age of uncreative, well, your creativeness. You MADE something, something that you thought up and actually put effort into.

    You don’t like how empty the game feels? Go online, find communities that have made their own servers and join in. People make entire worlds in this and hold together like a country. Become part of a massive kingdom and make something look awesome.

    Answer this in your next video if you’re so smart. What is YOUR brilliant awe inspiring idea for a game that will revolutionize every game out there? Not only that, lets see you program it or hire people to do it. Do you want your game to be accessible to people with a not so top tier PC, or a simple game you can go into and just mess around with.

  27. March 04, 2012 at 05:17am
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    Sigh

    I dont know why you are trying to convince the Minecraft people into thinking it needs fixing. Believe me, i have tried EVERYTHING.

    I suggested the idea of having pieces of paper that gives a recipe of items appear when you sleep in a bed to the next day, that way you get a sort of tutorial without having a big box asking you if you want a tutorial or not, it will be more misterious and may promp people to know who is leaving usefull notes on their houses.

    Minecrafters didnt like it

    I suggested the idea of a tutorial that involves starting on a village of whatever species (Pigmen, Lazer Indian, Cthulhumanoids, Elephantmen/Neanderthals) with their distict technology and buildings, to show you how to build a nice looking structure by doing their bussiness as usual. Not only that it will be a nice adition for the minecraft veteran by making the world be more alive but also will inspire new people to make stuff like that on their own way. You know, inspire people into doing what the game is all about: Building nice art/crap

    Minecrafters didnt like it. Only 11 stars on the Mojang Get Satisfacting compared to the 300+ stars on a Guns topic because obiously you cant go around in minecraft without a gun apparently. May as well rename the game:

    “Call of Blocky Duty: Retro Warfare”

    Why the fuck no?

  28. March 04, 2012 at 02:33am
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    man i cant believe how bent out of shape some of the ppl here got because of your rant. when you mentioned 3d dot game heroes that is a retro game. of course its a zelda ripoff but it looks excellent. if minecraft had that look and you could design chars that way i would probably play it and im awful at building games.

  29. March 04, 2012 at 02:11am
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    Ugh… i’m too tired to write anything that make sense, except wtf… I love Minecraft, you just need to play it a certain way and set your own challenges in the game. I couldn’t even finish the video because it was just too annoying to listen to, i mean all your complaints are so meaningless, of course the game is ugly, its meant to be that way, if you want to make it prettier just use texture packs and mods, and so what if its the community that made those, i welcome this, it just give so much customization options to the game. What is your problem anyway man… need some more love in your life or something ? Ugh.. anyway, i know its so pointless for me to try to get anything to you because even if i don’t know you i know you will just dismiss all i said right away lol, i guess i did it more for myself because i like Minecraft, its a simple, relaxing, sweet little game that i’am glad i own, i’d rather play some Minecraft 9 times out of 10 instead of another frickin military shooter or some other completely unoriginal game.

  30. March 04, 2012 at 01:13am
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    Minecraft is playing with legos.
    Nothing more nothing less.
    People like playing with legos.
    Legos don’t need graphics.
    Legos don’t need combat.
    They are just Legos.
    If you don’t like Legos do not play Minecraft.

  31. March 03, 2012 at 11:52pm
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    I’m ok with it sucking. I’ve never believed that every game made must appeal to 100% of the people 100% of the time. That’s the beauty of opinions.

    I do, however, like the video. The old scenes of industrial construction workers were pretty cool.

  32. March 03, 2012 at 10:11pm
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    Good job complaining about how somebody else did their job (i.e. Mojang creating Miencraft) when you can’t even get your own job right (i.e. Making videos properly, such as making your audio either full mono [allowing stereo playback via channel duplication] or full stereo so I don’t feel like my ears are being attacked with a gong in one ear and in a sound proof box on the other, not to mention the video on screen had little to do with what you were saying) Not to mention the “retro” graphics you mindlessly complained about are actually meant to be a homage Doom & the first Elder Scrolls game, which indeed looked blocky and ugly by the standards you described. Not to mention that no matter how bad the default texture pack looks to you, the vinilla worlds generated by it are indeed beautiful. Playing survival alone was quite fun for me for at least 90 hours in ALPHA so telling me the single player is boring is a lie. You must have been too stupid to really do anything beyond making a small shack and fighting a few mobs. I didn’t build statues or Enterprises, I built simple houses and tunnels and mostly just spent my time doing everything you can do in vanilla, yet I spent more time doing that than playing any other game I own. (Note: I own 185 games in Steam alone.) Your complaint about not knowing how to play is entirely your fault. When I first bought the game, I had only ever watched a video of someone showing what they did in the game, no tutorials of any kind. I was able to play the game quite well using only the resources linked to directly from the website. You forget further that the game is not distributed in a box, so anything linked to on the website where it is sold is technically part of it’s manual which includes an entire page dedicated to how to play as well as a link to the Minecraft Wiki which tells you anything else you need to know about the vanilla game. Having this information community made does not invalidate the fact that it is indeed an official manual on how to play, as the community took place in the game’s development earlier than even the alpha stage, so that argument is invalid. Further, even during the time of this filming, it was publicly known that they were aware of the AI problems, and it was being fixed, and, by the time of this video’s release, it had already been updated to be better, so that argument is invalid. Further, the combat consists of more than just swinging a sword. Critical hits, elaborate traps via redstone and dispensers, bow and arrows, wolf pets that could attack via player input, and enchanting all existed before this could have been filmed so that argument is also invalid. So all you’re left with is complaining that you didn’t play it right, as well as complaining that you were uninformed, and complaining that you didn’t enjoy legos as a kid so you don’t like creative either. You present these vague ideas like they form some sort of coherent argument but they clearly do not. Therefore you sir are a moron. If instead of all this bullshit, you would have simply stated your real reasons for your opinion, such as instead of complaining about the graphics the way you did, you said “the graphics didn’t appeal to me because I didn’t play the original Doom or Elder Scrolls games” you would not have looked like a moron.

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    I think we should tell him about Dwarf Fortress I think his head will explode, Also you made a comment about how the game was programmed in Java, why do you consider this a problem this is nothing all that wrong with using java, there is some performance lose from the fact its running through the JVM and there are some hiccups with garbage collection when running out of memory but generally its a fine language, Also in relation to graphics though im not as big fan of the graphic there is some reason apart from looking “retro” the low res textures mean there is less memory and what not needed to hold the textures and the game runs fast, if you use say a higher res texture pack you will fine the game to be harder on a computer and generally run slower, one could argue that this was a choice due to the fact that you want the game to be as accessible to as many people as possible, this may or may not be the case but the point remains that I don’t give a crap about how my game looks.

  34. March 03, 2012 at 09:25pm
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    Hehe, you’ve kicked up a storm here dude.

    I’ll say right now I disagree with you and I didn’t think this video was very entertaining at all but I do think you’re trying to do something interesting with the rant style format. As far as I could tell with this video it’s just your opinion, nothing more and nothing less, maybe the humour was just too subtle for me but I failed to see any of it. I’ll check out some of your other stuff, maybe I’m just not into this one myself.

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    My first point: you sound like you are trying to be the Cinema Snob. Yet except for the tone of voice, you leave everything out of your character that’s good.
    Second point: Black comedy? Where? I’m a fan of black comedy, and I see no comedy at all. Sounds a lot like that “friend” we all have that pulls a dick move or says something unduly harsh and untrue, and tries to cover his ass by calling it a joke. None of us like that guy.
    Third point: How have you even been around this long? The main body of Channel Awesome’s fan base seems not to like the kind of thing you do.
    Fourth point: instead of admitting that your method is off, you scold and deride the very viewers who keep you paid. If anyone else on this site did that, they would be gone. You must have very influential fans in your niche base, because the overwhelming response to your method BY VIEWERS AT LARGE is that your method is unsavory and unmistakably unfunny.

    If you want dark humor, do try Cinema Snob and Yahtzee. They at least get the “humor” part right.

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    Though I’d check back in and…oh wow! This is probably the largest amount of comments Leon has ever gotten. I’m reading them and there are some seriously butthurt fanboys. I love it!

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      Butthurt fanboys that patiently rebut him with facts, earnest analyses, etc? Butthurt is Mr. Leon, telling his fans they have no right to feel so harshly about his rant “because it’s comedy.” Comedy is funny. This is annoying. And I don’t give a crap about MineCraft except for something I mess around with when I’m hopelessly bored.

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        I never said you don’t have a right. Not once. Only explaining what the show is to a massive group of people who have only watched one episode. Heart of Gaming has been around here since last year, but based on all the new faces, the majority of the people watching this episode are completely new to the series.

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    *sigh*
    I’ll start off with saying I’ve never really played Minecraft myself. I only have good friends who do and seen the vids… you know, the usual.

    And as a person who is in a position such as mine? This video was BAD. I’m sorry, but… wow, this was hard to get through. It was an endless rage fest to a project that panned out as something it wasn’t intended as.

    Maybe it’s just me, but I thought the gaming community agreed long ago that Minecraft isn’t really a game in the usual sense. You play it as such and you’ll get no enjoyment from the bloody thing. It’s just something for people to screw around in and let their fantasies roam.

    Too low res for fantasies? I… don’t really understand why that should be a problem. You know what you’re supposed to be looking at, to be able to recognise it. The people who make their work the easiest to recognise (aka the ones that will put the most love and skill into such), will get the praise they deserve on youtube, forums, etc.

    Too mod-based? Again, WHY is this a problem? It’s practically partly what people pay for! To be able to create goes oh so much beyond just putting different colored blocks on top of each other. It gives you the opportunity to create skins of your own. Yes, there might be the argument that it’s just sloppy on the programmers’ part, but in the end? Imagination of a horde of people > imagination of a small bunch of people. And it’s good experience for people who have no other way to train their modding skills as of the moment. Look at this as a stepping stone. Small project to train on, to see if you wanna take your artistry to the next level. If I remember corectly, the mod packs are to be bought, so it’s not that you’re working for free on these. Also, I hate it when people support better graphics, simply because the games acquire limitations that aren’t all too visible to regular gamers. You mention games like World of Goo and Braid as counter parts. These are awesome games and more power to ya for liking them. But compared to Minecrafts forging system? Yeah, they are a bit on the simpler side. Great fun, but a completely different system than what Minecraft tries to sell.

    And all that complaining you went through seems to boil down to one very admirable point: other indie games being neglected because of Minecraft. Unfortunately, while I love the support of indie games this message gives, it just doesn’t work. As said before, most games, even indie games are totally different. Most people I know of that “play” Minecraft aren’t even gamers in the usual sense. Very casual, more into art than the challenge of gaming (you can put that up as an argument against the battle system, no guidelines and counter intuitive HUD for all I care). They would never pick up games like World of Goo, even if the likes of Minecraft never existed.

    So yeah, Minecraft isn’t a game for the gamers. Because there’s no need to classify it as such. If you really, really attempt to evaluate it as a gamer, you will get angry (as you did). However, there’s a good reason why this game is so popular. It’s not the hype. It’s not that it’s a game. It’s because of what it let’s you do. If that’s not what you want… well, you and me can go back to Dark Souls and keep dying till we snap. I know that’s what I’d rather do to say the least. But dissing a game that’s unique for it’s presentation? Come on, man. We’re gamers, we’re better than that.

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    I was interested in watching this video, but the lack of game footage killed it.

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      I believe the idea of not showing game footage is so you focus on what he is saying. Heart of Gaming isn’t a typical review show, it ‘s meant to stir up some thought on a general video game topic, in this case an overhyped indie game.

      What he shows is loosely based on what he’s talking about, Minecraft = footage of miners. Using only black and white films for the backdrop of what Leon is talking about is his way of being silly. You’ll get used to it, and then you’ll love it just like I do. :D

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    I’m not sure whether to troll in my comment or not, given the nature of what I’m commenting on. I imagine I’ll play it straight and try to be constructive.

    The audio quality doesn’t bother me, and I won’t bash having no game footage, which seems to bother alot of people. I think my issue is the commentary is all so one-note and unaltering that it becomes droning. Nothing about it sounds like it has any personality or actual tone. It seems you have a personality, but there’s no personality to it, if that makes sense. It’s just kind of flat and uninteresting the whole time. The jokes didn’t appeal to me in any way and I didn’t find any of them funny, even from the understanding that you’re purposefully being caustic. I’ve seen and laughed at people who are purposefully inflammatory, but didn’t find it worked here. I guess it was because many of the insulting statements weren’t even about the game but about unrelated stuff. It all feels tacked on and out of place with what you’re actually supposed to be discussing.

    But again, that’s just me. You are apparently 60+ episodes into this thing by now, so I don’t imagine you’ll be wanting to make any drastic changes to the formula at this point. Just my 2 cents. Good day.

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    Whether or not this was meant to be a humorous video or a serious look into the Minecraft paradigm I find this video very manipulative. In the same way that talking about your views on Politics or Atheism vs Religion would be manipulative, it’s bound to gain controversy and bound to gain attention. I can’t be sure why the video was made, I can’t reach into Leon’s head and pull out his reasoning, all I can do is draw my own conclusions. So using words while I use words like ‘think’ and ‘feel’ know that I’m only making stipulations into the authors mind, that I’m only studying it from my own perception.

    When I first watched the video I was reminded of a couple of years ago when Spoony started his series on Final Fantasy 8. During that time Spoony had garnered the attention of the fan base of the game and came under attack and sparked his own controversy. I only watched these videos in hindsight and learned of the reactions in hindsight as well. However to me it seems like Spoony didn’t actually intend for any of this to happen, the controversy he sparked was because he had some real meaningful grievances with the game. While it might be the same with the author of this video I also feel that the way it was made was more aware that it was going to spark this controversy, that in a way he knew he was opening up this door to bring a community down on him. And if I’m totally wrong and this was some dark joke on game communities or fan bases I feel that it was completely lost in the creation process making it entirely unfunny.

    Feeling that I was manipulated I was simply going to ignore this video as Baseless bait for controversy, not necessarily ‘trolling,’ but something more sinister. But as I’ve watched the video three times now I feel that I’ve already been manipulated into whatever the intentions of the video were. I’m contributing to the hype by adding my view to it, so I might as well make my viewpoint on it known.

    That said the video did make some very fair points:
    -Minecraft was in fact inspired by InfiniMiner.
    -The graphics are not very good and don’t pay homage to what they say they do.
    -The initial learning curve is very high.
    -The combat is very linear and doesn’t require a lot of thought.

    I would like to offer up my own opinions however on some of the points that were made, they are good points but they’re not exactly irrefutable. The fact of the matter is that many of the points made are very much based on personal experience, and that the overarching tone of the video is that somehow a game that is purely based around the way the community has embraced it is somehow ‘bad.’ With that in mind I’m going to go down the list of the points made and bring up my own points, unfortunately I don’t have the magic of film on my side so I have to condense it to a list structure.

    1) This game is user friendly. You have to read walkthroughs to learn the basics of the game, and that the game’s only challenge is based around learning to play the game.

    This point sort of hits on the whole idea of: ‘What makes a game fun?’ This has been debated rather heatedly for a long time, and the answer to the question is not as easy as one might think. In fact it often breaks down into a lot other questions. Are easy games fun, are artsy games fun, are games that are perpetually growing and changing fun? Games by and large are based on the players experience, and what has been found is that gamers are in fact people and there’s no one overarching way to have fun with a game. Some gamers like action games that challenge them with complex mechanics but initially easy basics.

    Where this point breaks down is in the assumption that there’s not in fact a set of gamers out there who enjoy actually researching their game, that they don’t enjoy having a very acute learning curve to even get into the game. There are games out there that are built around the idea of actually going out and having to research the game in order to play it, this harkens back to tabletop games that are usually so steeped in rules that they have multiple books on the subject. Now you might say that this only proves your point that most games do have instruction manuals but I would point out that while you might have the instruction manuals on hand that these table top games with multiple books are very much about researching how to do things in the books mid game.

    Games like Dwarf Fortress, Eve Online, and Heaven and Hearth are all games that are perpetuated by their community posting instructions for people to gain basic understanding of the game. Are these games failures in the basics of game design? Are they bad just because not everyone can get into the game easily? These questions might sound dismissive to some people, but there is clearly a fan base for these games, if they were really so bad then why do people still dedicate so much time to these games?

    As well saying that once the basics are understood that there’s no challenge to the game is also not entirely true. Knowing how to make tools and survive your first day is just the beginning of the game, in order to play “well” you have to not only survive, but thrive in the world that you build around you. There are a lot of things that you can’t just teach people, things like learning how to safely mine, learning the ins and outs of Redstone programming, and navigating the world around you. Those are all things that can be explained yes, but you actually have to experience them to get good at it.

    Now that said I put playing the game well into quotes because the game is in fact built around the users own experiences. It’s the ultimate sandbox and players don’t have to go out and master anything in order to survive the game, all they really have to do is survive. And that’s pretty much as easy as building a dirt house with a door and killing pigs and cows for their meat every so often. And that might be fun for some people but it certainly isn’t where the heart of the game lies.

    I could go on and on about this and I already have, you say that the fact that you have to research this games mechanics makes it somehow worthless. I say that is untrue, that games of any nature are found to be fun by different strokes of people and saying one type of game is worthless just because it doesn’t speak to your own tastes is stilted and a little bit offensive.

    2) Graphics, the game looks like crap. And the justification for the games graphics is equally bad, the game is meant to look like a retro game but it doesn’t actually strike a similarity to any retro games.

    Now I already said that you made a good point on the graphics, yes the uses graphics that are meant to evoke an 8bit sort of feel but doesn’t actually strike a chord with any 8bit games of the past. This is definitely a failing on the part of Notch who could have used the engine to make something a lot more aesthetically pleasing. And yes there are people who have gone out and made texture packs to make the game more pleasing to the eye, and yes that doesn’t make the game graphically worthwhile by its own standing.

    However to say that the game is ugly is harsh, now I realize that this is part of your character. And that you might think this, and I’m not going to set out to change your mind on the subject. Therefore this is going to be a short field of rebuttal.

    I’m going to say that subjectively I like the way the game looks by default, I’ve been playing since alpha and the first time I got into the game I was blown away by the way it looked. There’s a sort of charm to the way that the whole world is made by 8 bit blocks. I remember very vividly when I first made my world and I turned around and looked to see a large hill side with an arching cavern in front of me, waterfalls pouring down either side of the hill, trees interspersed around. It was a scene that made me gaze in awe not because of the blocks themselves but because I could internally imagine a similar scene in real life, and that’s where the game is truly beautiful in my opinion, in the fact that it can capture the players imagination and make beautiful scenes in the mind’s eye. Since then the game has added a lot of different types of enviroments, from swamps, to oceans, and deserts, ambient lighting, and other visual effects that have made the game prettier and prettier as the time passes all without the inclusion of mods or texture packs.

    Now I can’t speak to everyone’s experience and I don’t aim to change your mind on the way the game looks, but that’s because I realize that not everyone is going to enjoy the graphics. I’m not going to defend them further than to say that I like them, and yes the art direction could have been much better.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    3) The Combat is linear, thoughtless even. Everything is on a very basic level, neither monsters or players gain advantage.

    Here’s another part where I say that you make a good point but I have my own view points on the subject as well. Yes combat is very linear, swinging a sword around can be done by just holding down the mouse button, the bow is easy to use because creatures just walk toward you in order to attack, with the exclusion of skeletons that shoot at you or Ghasts who fly and shoot at you. In that respect yes the game is very simple, however it is not a game that was meant to be focused around combat. As I have stated before Minecraft is a game that is focused around the ideas of surviving and thriving in your environment given nothing but your own two hands to do so.

    That said the enemies add a whole new dynamic to the game when you’re focused around surviving, the fact that neither enemy nor player has the advantage mitigates your survivability down to numbers. And since there’s only one of you and countless monsters on any given night you’re ultimately going to die if you don’t build a shelter or defenses against the monsters out there. Also saying that the enemies are all the same is not exactly true, even in alpha enemies had different skills and specialties that could mess with your character. Zombies did just walk toward you but they could also fit into the same places that you could, they make sounds so that you know they’re coming and they’re slow but if you don’t have a sealed off are they can get in through any opening that you could get in. Skeletons as well had the same dynamic of making a sound and being slow walking but otherwise able to get into the same places that you could, but they also had the added bonus of shooting arrows at you meaning that even as you were running you had a chance of being damaged. Spiders were larger than the skeletons and zombies and therefore couldn’t fit through a doorway but they were faster and could climb up sheer surfaces meaning that standing inside a walled off area wasn’t going to save you unless you had a roof over your head. Finally Creepers were fast and most importantly of all quiet, the fact that creepers did not make a sound until they were ready to explode was mind blowing in how difficult to deal with, other than sealing yourself up in your house there was no way to deal with them other than looking over your shoulder every couple of seconds.

    So yes if you’re just looking at straight combat all the enemies are easy to deal with with the proper tools, but when you consider them in the light that they weren’t meant for straight out combat but rather survival their genius starts to shine through, they all had subtle variations that made you have to think about how to deal with your surroundings. And that is just the default creatures from the initial release of the game, they’ve since added other creatures to make things even more difficult, Silverfish that have eggs that look just like stone, Endermen that teleport, and cave spiders that are small, fast and do poison damage.

    I’m afraid you’re just misrepresenting the core dynamic of the game when you say that combat and ai are very linear.

    4) The game is boring.

    I’m not even going to honor this point, there’s no argument that you have that is not based on your own experience. Conversely there is no argument that I could make that isn’t based on my own experience. This is not something that can be defined objectively, no one can outright be the final judge of whether or not a game is fun or not. There are countless people out there that find all kinds of First Person Shooters fun and rewarding as gamers but I don’t particularly care for them, I don’t have fun shooting other people not because I dislike violence in games or some reason like that but just because I’ve never been interested in playing Army Men in the back yard, I was always the one digging tunnels and little sand cities in the sand box which is probably the reason I like minecraft, it speaks to my creativity. If you find the game boring that’s all well and good but stating it in your video like its spoken gospel is again a bit offensive and stilted.

    That said there are things that you can stage and make art out of in minecraft, it’s not relegated to just placing down blocks for sculptures. The inclusion of red stone and pistons and levers, switches, buttons, pressure plates, dispensers, mine carts, and boats can make for very fluid and dynamic pieces of art if you’re creative enough to do so. You made a point statement earlier that you didn’t want to hear about someone making the U.S.S. Enterprise because it was made by a player and not the development team. But then put a point in about other games that are similar to minecraft with trampolines and other staging devices where you can make art, inevitably those are going to be made by the players too. Minecraft supplies its own set of tools for players to make art just like these other games do, it’s not just ‘Lego Blocks’ as you seemed to point out, and not everything is sculptures.

    6) The source of the game is not very well designed.

    Most of the tone of the fan rebuttals seemed to center around this idea, that the game programming was not very good at all. Now this argument is probably very tired by this point but it stands to be repeated because it’s basically centered around the soul of the game.

    Minecraft worlds are made up into chunks of blocks randomly generated into different kind of biomes, it randomly generates not only what you see on the surface but what’s underground when you first enter the world. This includes cave systems, tree placement, hills, lakes, oceans, deserts, swamps, ravines, mountains, and other natural foundations all with thousands and thousands of blocks. And these do not change; they stay even when you go miles and miles away from where you started. As well as you move around new chunks of data are added in creating even more terrain which is not immediately visible to you.

    Based on the fact that this game speaks to the creativity of the player using resources that they pick up from the world around them to create a world in an unlimited sand box environment how exactly would you have proceeded to make the game given the same programming language and the same development team? I’d really like to know because to be honest given that Notch made the initial game himself and only added in other people later that means he developed the base concept himself with java. Java is not that powerful of an engine to begin with and with only one developer I would venture to say that the game is very well conceived and programmed.

    Now could it have been made with a better engine and a more rounded development team? Yes I sure think that with the current technology of the day it’s possible to make a sand box game like Minecraft with modern graphics and sensibilities, however I doubt that an indie developer could have made a game like that, it would likely take a lot more money and end up being an a list game. Now since Minecraft and Infiniminer there have been other indie games based around the idea of creativity and survival, Terraria is one example. But Minecraft does endure and is in fact being made better in its continued development.

    Indie games do not always come out perfect, in fact most indie games are based around their community, they continue to get tweaked and worked on long after they’re released. Some of the more artsy ones might stay sedentary sure, but the ones like Minecraft or Terraria will most likely not be the same game a year from now as they were when they were first released. In that respect they end up a lot like MMOs in that they will have bugs and quirks and flaws that might never get worked out. But they’ll still be around because their community supports the game and the developer.

    7) Finishing Up

    I’ve read some of your comments on the matter of this video and you’ve said that just because the game is ‘not for everyone’ doesn’t mean that it’s above criticism. This is true, the game is not above criticism and I myself don’t believe that it’s the end all be all of indie games. But the light that you’re presenting this video in is very fatalistic and not fair to the intentions that the game was built around, it seems to be mostly built around your perception as a gamer which is fine. But you speak with the standpoint of some kind of herald of the gaming world, which is simply not the case.

    I understand that this is part of a character that you’re portraying online but honestly like I said before the whole joke is lost on me. It’s unnecessarily cruel to the design of the game and the argument isn’t even that solid to begin with.

    I think the major failing of this character that you’ve created at least in relation to this particular game is that you’ve completely lost the love of the subject. With characters like the Nostalgia Critic or the Cinema Snob who base themselves completely around despising whatever they’re watching you can at least get the idea that they love what they’re doing, that they actually care about these old movies. And if that reference isn’t close enough to home for a gamer the same goes for Spoony or Angry Joe, they love games and the reason that they make these rants is because they feel betrayed by them and want the gaming community which includes developers to get better as a whole. With you it just seems like you want to tear down the developer, there’s no love in coming through in this video, there’s no ultimate joke or overarching goal to save the game or the developer. It’s simply just a rant to the effect of “I don’t like this game or the developer and I wish other indie more deserving indie games were popular instead.”

    I tend to think that a lot of Minecraft’s popularity is based around the hype that it was given to it by third parties. A lot of the fanbase for the game are not actually fans of the game itself but the the community behind it. Its become overinflated and frankly the people who do actually enjoy the game have been brushed by the wayside by modders, youtube videos, and an over excitable community of ‘players.’ Meanwhile there is an element of people, people who originally got into this game without the hype or the videos behind it who still quietly play the game on occasion and enjoy surviving their own little worlds with nothing but their two hands to start with.

    In that I see Minecraft as a well made game, it has all the elements of a sand box game, it has a core dynamic that has frankly not been explored very well, and given the size of the initial development team it is a very nice technical achievement. It doesn’t need mods or texture packs to stand on its own, there is fun to be had by just creating your own little worlds and surviving them. There are a lot of flaws yes, but when did gamers become so obsessed with the quirks of a game, when did things like simplistic combat, or the user friendliness of the game become central points as to whether or not the game is good or fun?

    Ninja Gaiden for the NES was not a user friendly game but it is touted as one of the best games in history. Mario world combatted enemies by jumping on their head and it has become a standard which all platformers are judged by.

    None of this is going to change your mind of course, and I’m completely fine with that. But despite you saying that this was not an attack on minecraft fans I still feel that I was personally manipulated into watching this video simply because it would spark controversy among the minecraft fans. And in a way that is a completely separate kind of attack.

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      @Biggerthentoast Wow… You put a lot of effort in that rebuttal, and it shows. You make great points and do so without resorting to low blows. Congrats, sir. Congrats.

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    wah!!! I don’t like minecraft because it breaks the standard conventions of gaming! WAHHHHHH
    Shut up. Seriously.

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    You totally skipped over half of what makes this game fun and addicting: the community. You complain about the default texture pack? Then look up some and get one that you like (which according to your video would have to be a 1024×1024 texture pack since you since the default is too pixelated). Don’t like the combat (which seems to be a lot like Skyrim’s, sans magic, and I’m sure you’re one of those douchebags that think it’s the greatest game ever)? there’s tons of mods that add combat weapons and features. AI a problem? well they fixed that 2 days ago (when you posted this) so your argument has become invalid.See, Minecraft itself is a sandbox game. not just the in-game content but the whole thin itself. a lot of the fun of minecraft is modding and shaping it to make it your own thing. Two people could have minecraft, but this guy has the Mine Little Pony mod inastalled and this other guy has equivalent exchange and portal gun, which really make them two separate games. And if you didn’t think the modding made the game any better (and the dev.s intended for the game to be modded, so it counts, especially after getting bukkit to join Mojang!) then you probably found some crappy mods, which is actually harder than finding a good one, so congrats on accomplishing that. Overall, Minecraft is supposed to encourage creativity,, exploration, and being apart of one THE best communities I’ve seen for an online game, which I think is part of why the game doesn’t tell you crafting recipes, so you can look for yourself and get you to immerse yourself in the community, which you clearly did not do. Of all of the hours I’ve spent playing Minecraft, well over half of those were spent on a multiplayer server, surviving with other members of the community. I’ve made several friends from Minecraft, which, if you had put some effort into it, could probably have so, too.

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    I don’t normally post, but here we go.

    Leon is not trying to be objective. This is a dark humor show with opinions of a fictional character. It is not a review that is supposed to be balanced, objective and offer carefull critique while trying to stay politically correct. The offencive jokes are supposed to be offencive. The show is cynical, the character is purposely antipathic. It’s meant to shit on and mock things. and it does it well.

    • March 03, 2012 at 03:38pm
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      The thing is, in this case, he didn’t do it well.

    • March 03, 2012 at 05:39pm
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      It may be a dark comedy show, but it’s still trying to put down a real opinion and state actual points, just in a humorous manner, of which even I chuckled at a few of the jokes (That Batman joke was great), but his humor doesn’t negate everything he’s trying to say about the game. If he isn’t trying to state his actual opinion on the game, and this is all just a bit, he really doesn’t bring that across very well to me.

    • March 03, 2012 at 09:15pm
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      We here at the Channel Awesome fanbase would forgive such a video if it was actually funny. Yahtzee regularly hates on games I love, but at least he’s funny. And as for “dark comedy,” that implies there’s “comedy” in it. Given the overwhelming comments, this kind of thing is simply not what fans want.

    • March 04, 2012 at 01:52pm
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      Oh, it was supposed to be comedy? Well, then it failed completly. You see, comedy is, indeed, about the weird, unexpected, exageratted. Sure, he did exagerated some flaws of the game… but went over the top. And since he didn’t touch “unexpected” or “weird”, he just had 1 leg to stand on… and that leg was so long that it bent and he fell to the ground.

      You just don’t stand on a gay bar and say “oh, gays are just horrible, and I’m not getting close to you, cause you’ll give me AIDS”. Cause a: It’s false. and b: Will piss the audience, instead of make them laugh. Specially if done on a serious tone.

      Sure, the batman….. let’s call it joke, for lack of a better term… (I’d call it comment) could have been fun, if not because we were preempted with the “All europeans are like hitler” comment.

      And that’s the only 2 remotely comical things that are in the video. Rest is just negative criticism, with no humor… So how comes this is dark humor, when it lacks humor? Should I understand it’s just “dark”.

      And, while the fictional character may be an asshole, but that’s ok, because we love our fictional assholes, specially on Channel Awesome (plenty of those there).

      However, the real person, and I’ll qote a standard answer from him: “Hi! I’m Leon Thomas! I was picked up by Blistered Thumbs a year ago, and my episodes have been on TGWTG.com several times before.”

      Well, the real person comes as self important and overly pompous. I don’t care if you’ve been several times on TWWTG.com several times, or if you’ve been doing videos for blistering thumbs for 1 year, or even if you’re the Pope of Rome. This video contains no humor, negative criticism, and, as such, shoould be just considered an attempt to troll, and get some views, as well as try and get some people to join your niche, which from what I’ve seen in this video, must consist merely on people from the USA who hate Europe, and consider everything mainstream “bad”…. so, Yankee hipsters.

      See? I can do negative criticism too.

      Now, let’s do dark humor. Same opinion, with dark humor.

      I mean, the guy’s pretty much repeating himself. All the time introducing himself… must be desperate for people to know that Leon is a name, and not just a misspelled animal. What kind of parent would be like that? Naming a guy after an animal, but misspelling it? Sure, when he’s bald, it’ll be quite ironic… The maneless lion. He also takes the time to inform us that he’s quite new in this video thing, so we should be lenient with him. I mean, he’s only been online for a year, and only some of his videos has been front page… so hey, he’s getting there! be cool!

      I mean, he REALLY needs the views, otherwise, how will he get better? Reading what people say about him is nice… And choosing a topic that will create controversy will grant him better responses than the usual “Good job” from his 5 friends and family that regularly watch him. Good job, Mr Leon!

      See? That’s dark humor. Suree it would piss some radical fan… but not 100 % of a comunity.

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    Well Leon, looks you’re finally getting some attention around here. Unfortunately it seems most of the people commenting either hate your work or just don’t get it. Aw, but what you gonna do about it? Nature of the internet, right? Anyway, just want to say great episode as usual and keep up the great work.

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    The thing about Minecraft is that fans are everything that’s right and wrong about minecraft. Why does it look like it does? Well it looked like that in alpha and fans wanted it to stay that way. Personally its a good time sink from time to time but it’s hardly a game. Altough I hear that the latest updates allow the game to be beaten somehow.

    Still this is a rather fair opinion, it really isn’t everyones cup of tea for sure, but it is true that notch isnt responsible for much in the game.

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    Hey, speaking of things that suck, this show is still here. Lovely.

    Also, good job failing to take into account what is practically the entire draw of Minecraft in your vid. I’m sure that’s going to earn you a lot of credibility.

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    There are a few of things about this review which bother me so I’ve mentioned them below. Feel free to take onboard my comments, or not – but please keep in mind that they’re made with constructive criticsm in mind and not intended to denegrate your efforts.

    -Jokes-
    The “joke” about Europe didn’t come across well at all. This might be due to the style of the review which seemed negative and pointed. If you’re going to make Jokes which poke fun at a group (whoever they may be) then it’s always best to tread lightly and be doubly sure that your audience know it’s all in good fun.

    -Balance-
    Sorry mate, but your review was in no way balanced. It goes to great effort to point out seeming flaws and negative points about its subject but makes no effort at all to try and find anything good to say. Your audience are unlikely to trust what you’re saying because it comes across as extreme and very biased. Balance is the watch word.

    -Screenshots-
    Your review video was an interesting choice, but it really could have done with a few screen shots/videos of the minecraft game itself. It’s a bit like doing a movie review but giving no clips of said movie. Also your comments about combat and AI could have been demonstrated and your points made clearer.

    My own point of view on the subject:

    I like and play minecraft. I agree that the graphics are rudimentary and the AI (until recently) quite poor. I believe the AI issue is being looked into/addressed atm, but as for the graphics – they are deigned that way and I tend to think of them as being a style choice more than anything else. As for looking retro… I’ve not heard that arguement before and to be honest not something I entirely agree with/think as relevant.
    I do agree with you regarding a game manual being needed given that the game is now RTM and no longer beta. Saying that, the wiki is remarkably good – especially the recipe guides.

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      You must be new to my show. So, I’ll explain.

      - It’s a dark comedy show. It has always been promoted as such. People who don’t like that brand of humor typically don’t watch this show, but due to the topic, more people came in. The jokes are meant for a niche audience. That isn’t changing.

      - Heart of Gaming doesn’t have video game footage. Ever.

      -It’s not a review show. It’s not meant to be balanced. It’s a personal opinion show.

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        Ahhh, that explains it – I was expecting a balanced review, not a personal opinion.

        I’ll admit that your style is not really my cup of tea, but good luck with work :) .

        BTW you seem quite adamant on the video game footage. Any reason for that? Just curious.

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    I don’t know who you are, but now I know that I don’t like you.

    Thanks for visiting TGWTG’s front page though . I will remember to stay clear of future videos.

    • March 03, 2012 at 12:34pm
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      Hi! I’m Leon Thomas! I was picked up by Blistered Thumbs a year ago, and my episodes have been on TGWTG.com several times before.

      Bye!

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    I’ve never really liked your style of reviews but i clicked this thinking i’d give you another shot but that turns out to be a mistake, its just as boring and biased.

    If people enjoy something it cannot by definition be bad, to be bad people need to find the experience a bad one which the majority of minecraft players dont.

    Your in the minority and your vitriole and bile just makes this review a personal rant that fails on multiple levels to give a balanced comentery.

    • March 03, 2012 at 12:18pm
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      Heart of Gaming is not a “review” show. It’s a personal opinion show. Of course it is biased towards a personal opinion. It isn’t meant to be anything but that. The fact that you think it is a review show really does prove what you said about not watching it. So, it’s understandable to make that mistake. Out of sixty episodes, I think only about five have been about one game, and they are usually about using the game as an example of something grander.

      • March 04, 2012 at 08:39am
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        While I understand that Reviewing is somewhat wrapped up in a certain level of expertise and analysis based on a more acedemic understanding of the subject matter/medium, the fact of the matter is, after you strip all that polite veneer away, Reviewing essentially ~IS~ personal opinion.

        The line you’re drawing here is splitting hairs, at ~best~.

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    I play Minecraft occasionally but I’m not a “fan”. There are many thing that outright piss me off on this game: its poor optimalization (e.i. lags), slow update speed and ignoring the fan base when it comes to game content requests. Tutorial si lacking and yes, Vanilla graphics are lazy (though many people still like then, its a matter of opition i guess).
    Game’s creator Notch is a lazy arsehole, thanks god he’s not working on Minecraft anymore.

    BUT:
    1. It is a sandbox game from in its core from its inception. Adventure parts were added later and waren’t finished yet. If you don’t like sandbox games, then don’t play it because you won’t like Minecraft either, simple.
    2. community does matter to the overall experience. Thriving modding community simply DOES increase the value of a game, Minecraft is no exception. You can get new game content and better grafics for free. As a consumer I don’t care it is not part of the game itself.
    3. when I play, I have fun. Therefore, it cannot be boring, simple as that :)
    4. Minecraft helped Indie game market imensely. If anything, it showed to millions of people (including me), that indie games can be fun and are worth buying, even if they have strange or even bad graphics. If I had not bought it, I woudn’t buy other indie games, such as Titan Attacks or Flotilla, because I would think they looked odd.

  51. March 03, 2012 at 11:31am
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    I’ve never seen any of your videos before, but I loved this one! I felt that a few of the jokes were weak or didn’t work. Putting that aside, I needed a good negative video about Minecraft to give me a smile today!

  52. March 03, 2012 at 11:22am
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    I totally agree with you about Minecraft but you are really mean and sorta troll like

    • March 03, 2012 at 11:28am
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      That’s Mr. Thomas his character, watch the other episodes and you’ll see that he is always a bit darkish.

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    I’m gonna answer th video in the video tone. So bear with me.

    I have nothing against you, except the fact that you’re from USA, you know, the guys who would start multiple wars and still call themselves the capital of peace. The country with huge censorship, yet proclame themselves as the most free country… Oh, yeah, you made your point against Europe. So I now got mine against USA… could keep going like this for, literally, 7000 lines, but I just won’t. Cause I know better. I know you don’t offend a WHOLE continent just to make a point about videogame. Seriously. You just went there you can’t take it back now. You know what else came from europe? CULTURE. MUSIC. PAINTING. SCIENCE. DECENT SCI-FI, etc.

    Moving on.

    Yes, the game has what is should be considered bad graphics. It’s pixelated, has no curves at all, and all the enemies look the same. Again so what? There’s a lot of people who just like the game for THIS fact. Sure, most of them are not 5-12 years old. Minecraft fans tend to be older than that. Yes, there ar people who ACTUALLY like bad graphics. Those are the people who said that you DO NOT NED TO FUCKING COUNT THE HAIRS ON SOLID SNAKE’S HEAD TO PLAY A GAME. You just don’t. Want to know my favourite game? Gauntlet 2, for Amstrad CPC. Random maps, maze-like. Tons of enemies, all looking the same, and it didn’t have REAL graphics, either. It was made with customized characters, each character, 1 block. You know what other game, which i played by lots of people has no graphics? Rogue, and all its variants. Good graphics are only necesary to make up for a lack of certain qualities on a game.

    Which brings me to the next point on the list. Replayability. I’ve played god of war, and all the crap like that. All of which has good graphics. You play it once, and you’re done. Bcause, replaying them would be repeating the same steps ALL THE TIME. You play one of those games 10 times, and you’re just repeating the same steps 10 times. Doing the same shit 10 times. That’s cause of the capitalistic views of USA society, mostly, tho. You pay a game, and you need to buy another if you don’t want to be repeating mechanically the same steps all the time.

    Also, kinda tied with this point, so it was hard to make a place to talk about it. Now, to introduce this point I should say I AM visually handicapped. Which is probably part of why I like these graphics. But, being visually handicapped (not to the point of being blind), makes me depend more on my hearing sense than on my sight. Minecraft has a strong point going on here, on the sound clues. You, or at least I, can locate any nemy around me just by hearing. Also, can pinpoint caves, lava, water, etc just by hearing. Yes, I can even say the distance. Only thing that needs more work is… I just can’t tell when something is up or down, other than moving myself up or down and re-checking the sound. Halo? All the soundsteps sound the same, no matter the direction. At best you can tell DISTANCE, but no direction Minecraft? Only the NEW AI creepers can surprise me.

    And yes, new AI. While it’s true than, up to 2 days ago monsters would just go towards you… it is also false, but whatever. Zombies AND creepers would just go towards you, as well as slimes. Skeletons woul hang back, at a certain distance, and they would move back if you got closer to them. Spiders would try to ambush you from top of a wall, if there’s a wall nearby, Cave Spiders would rush thru webs, surprising you while tangled in them. Zombie pigmen would be pacific, but would surround you if you attacked them. Ghasts wouldn’t even get close to you, flying higher and higher, blazes would attempt to hang over lava pits keeping a distance, endermen would teleport and attack you from your back. The ender dragon is quite random, tho. No real patterns, unless you count the 35-180 turn it does whenever you hit her on the face. But this is ALL old news. As of 2 days ago, creepers will take their time to circle to your back, or at least use cover to advance towards you, skeletons hang even more, making them REALLY hard to kill with swords, zombies will NOT get stuck behind a tree any more, but will charge on the most efficient line towards you (hey, they’re brainless, so sure they don’t do anything else). Spiders will not touch the ground unless there’s no other way to move. Endermen just port away BEFORE porting to your back at a random time, making them totally unpredictable (if not counting on their sound… again, I have the upper hand here, just due to how my senses work). Creepers will RUN OUT IN TERROR if you have a cat with you. Doors are no longer a safe way to protect yourself, since mobs can now tear them down. And many more things I haven’t checked yet.

    And that’s another point. The game is updated quite frequently. My sister doesn’t play it, cause she gets lost (to be honest, she gets lost in anything more complex than super mario bros 1, too), so she only plays when I’m around. I haven’t seen her since Xmass, so she hasn’t updated her minecraft since then. So she has 1.0.0. Now, Xmass in my country is from 25th December to 6th January, so that makes less than 2 months since she played minecraft. Right now it’s version 1.2.3. Tht’s 2 mayor updates in less than 2 months. The game you reviewed sounds a LOT like BETA 1.7. Killing mobs has a point, getting xp, so you can enchant your armor/tools/weapons Going to the nether has a point so you can make different potions, and gather different materials only available there.

    Now, the darkness thing… I play on moody. The darkness has never bothered me. Sure I use TONS of torches… but I’m always pissed at my sister for playing also in moody, and NOT USING A SINGLE TORCH. She states that she CAN see well enough. And funny enough, she proved she CAN. So maybe the game being too dark has something to do with either your screen or your eyes. Most people will just use torches when it’s too dark… but then, think again. Shoudln’t it be AWFULLY DARK on the middle of a GIANT CAVE, WITH NO NATURAL LIGHT?

    Which brings to another point. The monsters. They’re there to make cave exploring harder, and resource collecting harder. As well as a way to get experience. Light mechanics and mobs mechanics are tied in. You need light for monsters not to spawn. I learnt this by… READING THE MANUAL. But there’s no manual, you say!

    Well, there’s the wiki. Sure, it acts as a manual. You need to read your manual to learn how to play a game. all those “in game tutorials” and “super intuitive controls” are crap. In my time, whenever you wanted to learn how to play a game, you read the manual. Oh, and the recipe? are quite intuitive. For a ladder you form a ladder with sticks for a pickaxe, you make the handle with sticks, and the head with the right material. Quite intuitive. At least with a little imagination.

    And that’s what the game HAS going for it. If you HAVE imagination, you can make almost everything. Specially when using redstone mechanisms, and pressure plates, and all the different resources the game has. Yes, if you make a giant chewbacca doll there’s all of it. BUT, why should you make that, when you CAN make a giant WALKING chewbacca doll? Thing of a Rube Goldberg machine: It can be recreated in minecraft. It’s not just placing blocks, but the interactions between them. Last thing I did? A rube goldberg machine that makes me breakfast in game when I just get off bed, if it’s morning. Oh, and it resets itself. So I can use it every in game day. Or did you review a version of the game that still hadn’t the food mechanics on? I noticed how you managed to NOT use a single screen from the game, so I can’t say what version are you playing. But, if you think the game looks bad, probably the free version, which is infdev… which is a REALLY old version of the game. It was an alpha, at that.

    So what version areyou reviewing? An Alpha? and saying that, since the alph didn’t have many features, the actual version doesn’t have them either? dude, be realistic. use your imagination at its fullest, and you’ll have a game in which you can explore caves full of danger, and then come back to your home. And that’s without using mods, OR MAPS.

    Yes, because the game is thought in a way that encourages the users to make their own adventure maps. No, this is not the comunity doing. The game itself is coded so it’s EXTREMELLY EASY to do so, thus encouraging the creation of maps. not mods, but maps. Check any map done by vechs, and tell me it’s boring! Yes, I know… the map itself is done by a comunity member. BUT the game ENCOURAgES THAT, AND THE MAP IS DONE TO BE PLAYED IN VANILLA MINECRAFT, so it IS part of the game. The coder, which nowadays is jeb, made it so you CAN export those maps and share them easilly. IF THIS WAS A GOOD FEATURE IN SUPER MEAT BOY, it IS here. It can’t be a feature in a game, and not a feature in another. Some other reviewers in the site has made strong points about how a game allows user created content, and that being a feature. So THIS… is a feature.

    So is texture packs. Why is teture packs a feature? Well, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BUTTON IN THE GAME TO SELECT YOURS. Yes, it’s in the game. You just need to download them, and yes, they’re made by comunity members. but the game clearly is designed to allow them, when it has a big button that states “texture packs”

    All these things… are made by the comunity, but ENCOURAGED by the game creators. So are mods. Which is the REAL innovation. The REAL breaking grounds thing is NOT a game about exploration AND construction, but a game made by its own comunity. The pistons? made originally by a member, they were a mod. Now they’re in the game? Potions? same thing. Poison spiders? again, the same. the game is loved by its comunity bcause the comunity MAKES the game. And THAT is groundbreaking.

    And this ties in with the placeholder things as graphics. Since the game it’s made in a way that allows AND encourages for the community to make the game grow, it HAS to have placeholder graphics. Yeah the art is shitty, but only because that allows other people to build on them. AND the more liked modifications eventually get to be into the game.

    But yes, my opinion is that you’re both not playing the current version of the game, AND you’re not playing it as intended. You’re sitting there, collecting blocks on the surface, and just building WITH blocks. There’re more things. Many more. Pistons, intrduced in beta 1.7 were a game changer. So were powered rails, and the things you can make with them. It’s NOT ONLY a game about building structures. it’s a game about building your own game too, as well as a game of building your own map.

    Now, if you name me 5 games that are those 3 things AT TIME, I’ll agree that it’s not ground breaking… but the closest game I can think about is FRUA (Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventures) which was both a game, and a game of building your own map.

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    what is great is that you started a conversation. He made this knowing that it was going to get back lash but did anything he say a lie. No. He spoke the truth. If you look out there, there are people who hate batman Arkham city or WOW or skyrim. Some of the best games ever made. Now lets put mine craft next to Batman, are these games even in the same league. Well if you ask the fans then yes mine craft is just as good. I first saw this game and i was amazed that it was released and then i saw it grow and people were going crazy about it. I am still baffled to this day about that. I then watched on this channel a live broadcast of a game of Mortal kombat in mine craft. It was one of the lamest things i ever saw. Two poorly pixaled characters that barely looked like anything jumping and cheating to win. I watched in amazement thinking “who in there right mine would pay for this waste of time” so after watching that poor excuse of a game i never looked again.
    So i see this post and all i have to say is amen. Thanks for speaking a truth and willing to take the back lash from fans of a game that should of been laughed off the table. I will put them up to the same as Rock horror picture fans, i wish they would just stop and take a real look at what they are doing and basing there fanaticism on and spend the energy on something better.
    Again thanks for being brave and i hope you don’t get assassinated by a square bad looking box boy or die laughing when he enters your room.

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      Yeah, cause Arkham City and Minecraft are such similar games lol That is such a ridiculous comparison. You can’t compare an indie title like Minecraft to a large budget AAA release, especially when both games are trying to do COMPLETELY different things.

  55. March 03, 2012 at 10:04am
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    Okay, so this was first of your reviews, and really, it’s my last as well. Understand, I watch Zero Punctuation and Yahtzee has ripped the living hell out of game that I love, but he’s fair about it. He gives synopsis, and even puts together the good points before he gets going on the bad ones.

    This was not a review, it was a troll post, and not what I come to a review site for, and I wish I could talk about something good in the review that you could build, but… there’s nothign. Watch Angry Joe and some of the others to learn how to do a review, especially how to do so without trolling. It’s an achievable dream.

    At no point do you use any game clips in your review, and that’s the first knock against the review, a pretty damned big one come down to it. People are coming here to see what the game is like, to decide whether or not it’s worth their money, not to watch a black & white film while you throw troll bait out there.

    You want people not to think think you want peoples’ parents taken out and shot? Then *don’t say they should be taken out and shot*. It’s the most basic rule of the internet, I mean crap, 9-year olds grasp that.

    You don’t want to “insult the minecraft fans”? Really, purposely making retard speak for every question you decided we’d ask isn’t insulting? you wouldn’t be the least insulted if people quoted you in the “derp” voice the whole way for every single line of your dialogue?

    • March 03, 2012 at 10:57am
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      Don’t forget the lovely line with “all bad things come from Europe”. I’m not saying that Europeans haven’t done bad things, but NO continent is spotless. I honestly was fine with this review until Leon decided to spew shit.

      Monkies point, decent human beings knows better. At least have SOME manners for christ sake.

      • March 03, 2012 at 11:14am
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        It should be obvious that it was a joke. The punchline that could not possibly be taken seriously should have been a giveaway.

        • March 03, 2012 at 11:22am
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          And you didn’t think for a moment that bringing up things like hitler of ALL things wouldn’t be considered offensive there? I’m sorry but you stretched it a bit too far with that one

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            Heart of Gaming is a dark comedy. Always has been, always will be. That is one of the least inflammatory jokes I’ve ever made in sixty episodes of this show. Some people enjoy that brand of humor. They are my audience. This is clearly your first episode. You do not. Now you know it isn’t for you.

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      It is the 60th episode. Not first.

    • March 03, 2012 at 12:13pm
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      That’s the thing….this ISN’T a review. Leon doesn’t review anything. He takes a game, genre, or aspect of gaming and does a rant on it loaded with dark comedy. Nowhere did he give the game any type of score.

      He never uses game-clips for any of his videos instead using black and white movies that, while aren’t game clips, oddly fit the subject of his rant.

  56. March 03, 2012 at 09:39am
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    TL;DR: Minecraft sucks, but the community is pretty spiffin’. If you like the game, keep going. I won’t even attempt to stop you. We all have our own likes and dislikes. You might hate the things I like, for all I know or care. I’monna keep doing those things.

    Okay, I’m going to watch this video again and comment on it (and minecraft, and the posts I’ve read) as best and as clear as I can.
    Please note that all of these are opinion-based and I probably won’t be back to see any replies to my post.

    OKAY!

    1. Walkthrough or video on youtube… Actually, I asked my friends who INSISTED I played, but it equates to roughly the same thing. It doesn’t have a learning curve, it just has a ‘look it up or ask someone who already knows’ THING to it. I don’t know how a tutorial or the like would be implemented (maybe a button before/at the world-making screen for newbies. ‘need a refresher? have this instructions manual here!’), but it would be well-appreciated.

    2. The graphics are pretty garbage. I could ignore them if I were in multiplayer bantering with buddies or had an exploration goal in mind to gather *material*, but when I’m building stuff…. One texture pack, please.
    Minecraft is also very dark until I messed with my monitor’s gamma settings. It helped, but then a lot of the darkness just became grey blobs (though I could admittedly see more than before, not just background grey blobness, but more blocks and depth, as well.)
    Blocks CAN be beautiful, vanilla minecraft blocks are not.
    This is where commenters come in: Guys, the graphics can be simple (so it loads well) and still beautiful. It doesn’t have to be pixelated and hurt your eyes! Texture packs do a WONDERFUL job of making the game much more beautiful and they are still simplistic enough to load easily! But those are TEXTURE PACKS which the COMMUNITY made, they’re not default minecraft graphics. default graphics truly are an eyesore if you really look at them.
    2.1: sidenote, Java is really awful to code things in. It doesn’t matter how good your computer is, it will lag like hell, which makes minecraft all the more frustrating.

    3. I’d liek to add to the combat statement.. It’s also a little hard to judge whether my sword will hit the spider, or the spider will “phase through” and hit me instead. I’m sure it takes practice and whatnot, but it feels more like bad design than my fault for getting hit.
    Besides that I don’t have much to say about combat. I think the monsters are just to distract you from building so you take longer. Not so much as a challange. The ‘game’ doesn’t feel so much that combat is FOR anything. It’s just sort of thrown IN.

    4. “Boring”. PERFECT! I’m glad you said it!
    Every time I try to, I’m just told I have no imagination.

    -giggle- ‘Hitler’. maybe pushing it for people who don’t know your show. It was funny, though.

    5.-ish
    The minecraft community/fanbase are pretty awesome and help make the game less garbage with its graphical mods, minecraft wikipedia, servers… But if you’re sticking to something for the mods or the servers, it’s not really worth the time. You’re just covering up issues that should be addressed in the core game.

    6. Not really a six on the list, but… If the technical/coding/graphical(making) aspect of minecraft intrigues you, go ahead and learn it. Help the community with or by making shinies for them. Pretty skins or more animals or better AI or whathaveyou.

    Have fun with your minecraft, but he does make some good points. (And I shall have fun with my pokémons, despite the games being pretty much ‘all the same’. I like it and I’m gonna keep playing it! Just like you like your minecraft and will continue to play it.)

  57. March 03, 2012 at 08:15am
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    Well you said nothing new for me. Ive read all, literally ALL of your arguments in a gaming magazine.
    And the strongest argument against you is: I like playing this game, just like many other players. You don’t. Ok. So…why do you make a video like a 12-year old youtube-troll?
    And if youre allowed to affront Europe; can I do the same witch America? So… What else is from Europe? Americans? You do remember this part, right?

  58. March 03, 2012 at 08:00am
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    Trying to convince people that what they love is terrible. <3

    Things like Twilight or Justin Bieber are (were?) extremely popular with some people for some reason. And maybe we’re just so much better than those idiots. Maybe.

    “I CLEARLY stated I wasn’t insulting the Minecraft fanbase.”
    I know. I watched the video.

  59. March 03, 2012 at 06:50am
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    I’ve always found trolling to be an important aspect to the Minecraft phenomenon. The high difficulty, the bad graphics, the weird physics, all there to annoy both the gaming community and the industry. It kind of creates a love/hate relationship to the players. Also, the little references to cRPG:s, The Elder Scrolls in particular, are too many to ignore. I don’t just mean the new TES games (dragons?!) but to older ones as well with that old-timey look. The legal disputes with Bethesda enforces that connection. I’m pretty sure it’s meant as both a mockery and an homage. Good trolling, Mojang! You make me proud to be Swedish.

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    I will try to make it short – you totally missed the element of the game wich I really enjoyed. Randomly generated worlds. I loved the feeling of exploration and adventure in this game. This and the redstone “programming” are the best elements of the game for me personally. Though I don’t know if there is many people that think the same, so may be this is not so important.

  61. March 03, 2012 at 04:26am
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    Maaaaan, I don’t know who this guy is or why he is showing up on ThatGuyWithTheGlasses, but after sticking it to SpikeTV and the rest of the gaming press you’d think this is exactly the kind of guy they wouldn’t want on their website. If you were gonna criticize the indie game for its bad graphics, you might as well have just called all of its fans autistic too.

    This isn’t constructive criticism, this hasn’t generated a discussion, this is a perpetuation of one of the ugliest cliches of gaming journalism on a website that was supposed to be cut from a different cloth.

    • March 03, 2012 at 11:07am
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      Who am I? I’m Leon Thomas. I’ve been doing Heart of Gaming for two years, and Channel Awesome picked me up about a year ago.

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    i think of it like this. that is your opinion and im glad that is what it is. just an opinion. personally, graphics mean little of nothing to me. as long as i enjoy the game. i myself like minecraft. the next thing is combat. yeah you are right ai is kinda derpy at times, but this brings me to my next point which may or may not mean anything. the game is constantly being updated. they keep adding to the game. so it will give you more to play with. next is the instruction how to play this game. well the only reason that this game got popular is cause of an online fan base. and people saw it most likely threw their favorite youtube commentator. so they figured it out like how they most likely learned about you. threw the internet. and for me. sometimes a puzzle is better if it dosent have the instructions how to solve it. makes the reward better. also for its graphics. can you tell me any game that you can go in any direction for a limitless distance, have the world generate around you in all directions? that takes a good bit of power to make it all randomly generate so simple graphics make it easier. like i said. this is your opinion and i will respect that, but im sure everyone grew up with an imagination and pretended a stick was a sword and the dog was a dragon or something and that to me is what minecraft is like we take the good and the bad.

  63. March 03, 2012 at 02:22am
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    To start, I myself am not a fan of minecraft. I don’t like it’s gameplay, it’s graphics, and a number of things. However, there’s a reason it’s all there. You didn’t spend much time on this video, did you? The quality of this video is shit. What more, the fact that you brought up Hitler in this review is just baffling, along with saying that it’s Europe’s fault for Hitler.

    I honestly think you just made this video to drum up controversy by insulting a massive fan base to get yourself more views. I honestly wouldn’t be bothered if you said your piece about this game, but you came off as hateful and ignorant. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    Yeah, I’m maybe taking it too seriously, but honestly, I expect better then this.

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    I like the way you bring the discussion on the game. It is thoughtful and tries to be original at some points.

    I’m not a fan of Minecraft, it is not one of my favorite games for sure and I haven’t played more than 8 hours of it. But you got it wrong in a lot of issues.

    The main point you miss is, Minecraft actually is or was originally an indie game. It was basically developed by a “one man team”. So regards the graphics, he took what he got on hands, that is how indie game works, you take the people who are willing to work (even without payment at the time).

    On the “cube” issue, the cube shaped pieces were designed to be as much intuitive as possible, and make it acessible for anyone to easily create different shapes or building without having to go trought complicated processes. Minecraft comunity displays a great diversity of “architectural” and non-architectural creations, the cube based game design allows anyone to express it’s creativity in 3d shaped buildings and else. The other ways a person could possible do something similar, model 3d, would be a 3D program like Blender, 3Ds Max, Maya. And as a 3D modeler and animator myself, I tell you, this programs are very complicated, the learning curves are gigantic(weaks to learn the basic), and honestly with the constantly updates on these, you never “master” them. So where would you be able to build various different things and even futher, interact with them, if wasn’t Minecraft?

    Could they have done the textures and the meshes of the cubes to join each other when you put them tougheter and make the graphics more realistic even keeping the cube shape? Yes, they could, but the personnel that would be necessary to actually really “improve” the graphics and the way the blocks interact with each other would be gigantic, in other words: an indie game would never be able to accomplish it. Besides, after all the “subculture” of “retro” graphics in indie game was installed, they don’t even bother with it, they took it as part of the game identity.

  65. March 03, 2012 at 01:55am
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    Great review.

    I can think of nothing sadder than a minecraft fan boy.
    At least pick something halfway interesting and decent to wrap your lips around.

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      Thanks for proving my point, sad sacks.

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        I’d say getting thumbed down for making a nonconstructive comment that blatantly insults a large group of people doesn’t reinforce the point you made so much as reinforce the fact that you made a nonconstructive comment that blatantly insults large groups of people. In fact, I’d say people merely thumbing your comment down, as opposed to taking the bait and going on an angry diatribe, refutes your point more so than reinforce it. This is coming from someone who doesn’t even like Minecraft and is generally amused by your comments, btw.

        • March 04, 2012 at 04:38pm
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          My comment had to do with the ludicrous nature of fanboys.

          They thumb down my comments because they hurt their feelings, which are irrevocably attached to a really crappy game.

          And they thumb down the video’s author repeatedly for the same reason. Fanboyism is by definition irrational emotional attachment, and they are demonstrating it Ad infinitum.

          • April 23, 2012 at 12:10am
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            Yes, if you hurt people’s feelings, they vote you down. Hurting people’s feelings is, get this, WRONG. The fact that you think it’s a good thing means there’s something wrong with you.

            They aren’t being irrational. They are responding the way human beings are supposed to. When you say shitty things, people get mad at you. If you don’t understand this, then you need to go back to kindergarten.

            At least the author of this was trying to be humorous. He’s not very good at conveying this, and seems to be incapable of realizing that he could improve and be obviously comedic to new viewer, but at least he wasn’t trying to piss people off.

            You are. People who you attack are justified in voting you down. Be happy it’s just the Internet, and that’s all that happens. In real life, you’d be losing friends and possibly have to look out for big guys with muscles who don’t like it when you mistreat their brother/sister/girlfriend/whatever.

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    I would definitely call myself a dedicated Minecraft player. I enjoy exploring, planning new things to build, and I appreciate the limitations I’m given within the game because I feel that it exercises my creativity to find solutions for the things I’m visualizing. Watching you video, hearing your reasons against them, I must say… you’re right. The game is hideous as is, and I usually use a skin so I don’t have to look at the dull textures. Combat is a joke and you can even turn it off immediately if it gets too hairy. Most damning though, and something that as a non-player you haven’t had to deal with, is when I’ve finished a build there’s this sad emptiness because there’s absolutely nothing to do with it, it just sits there. I have to plan and build something else, imagine grander projects to get the same excitement. It’s akin to a drug that all of we dedicated players are blissfully ignorant of involving ourselves with. What’s terrible is we get others to play it, hoping that will validate our choices. The lost time, the blind dedication, choosing Minecraft over other, more tangible accomplishments… dear G-d, I think I’ve made myself a little ill. What’s awful is as long as I have another friend playing it still, someone with which to compare projects and support the habit, this will just be my “I swear I’ll never drink again as soon as I finish puking” moment. Wish me well, stranger-friends, I’ve got some growing up to do.

  67. March 03, 2012 at 01:47am
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    You know, I knew there was a reason I stopped playing Minecraft after a while. And I did try using a graphics mod with it–because it IS ugly, let’s be honest–but I couldn’t figure out how to get it to work. The remark about needing a wiki to play it is also spot-on. I sure as hell did.

    For your next review, say MLP: Friendship Is Magic is a terrible show aimed at girls.* That’ll really stir the hornet’s nest.

    *Not that I’d know–never seen a single episode.

    • March 03, 2012 at 03:48am
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      Go back to middle earth you troll

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        Apparently you missed this part:

        “*Not that I’d know–never seen a single episode.”

        That was your clue that I wasn’t being completely serious and of course, you missed it. I don’t actually know if it’s a terrible show! If I trolled you it’s because you’re being incredibly defensive about something you didn’t need to take so damn seriously.

        And I’d like to tell you and any Minecraft fans out there to stop being so damn sensitive. If this game is really so great then it can stand some harsh scrutiny without you people exploding into a mindless rage. And yes you did. In a previous comment Leon Thomas simply explained who he was–and that got nineteen thumbs down. Why? What is wrong with you people? Frankly I’m beginning to think you deserve to be trolled.

  68. March 03, 2012 at 01:39am
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    Well in a world now a day of nothing but bad games like Call of duty, Battlefield, or mass effect with all it poorly made stuff can’t blame others for not wanting to put work into a game when they know they can get just the same from people for a half done game to if it was complete and well made.

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    I think you may have missed the point of Minecraft. Everything you said is true, yes the textures are ugly, yes, the combat is basic, and yes, it should have a tutorial, but the point of minecraft is that it allows you to build amazing structures. You dont need mods to create amazing things, as long as your willing to put in the time. And the game makes you work towards those structures, unlike other creative games like garys mod or fortresscraft. In order to creat things you need to search through dark caverns, fighting monsters that can kill you really easily in the beginning. And even though if you look at a single block it is ugly, if you climb to the top of a mountain and look out over the landscape, it can actually be quite beautiful. And because its all randomly generated, you’ll never be looking at the same view twice.

  70. March 03, 2012 at 01:11am
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    I’m glad that someone said something not nice about Minecraft. Even when yahtzee reviewed it he was nice to it. Given that he’s always complained about create you’re own X in games before, it was quite baffling when all of the sudden minecraft was interesting and fun if needing a few tweaks.

    I’ve given why Minecraft doesn’t interest me personally some thought. And I have to say. I don’t like it because it’s just about making an environment. I haven’t seen anything to do in the game. Let me put it to you this way.
    In megaman powered up you made a platforming level with the parts you find in the game. The parts can either let me make a bullet hell megaman style level. Or a level with some puzzles in it. Or a platforming level with platforming being somewhere between challenging and evil.

    Little big planet is a game where you can just about make anything it’s a lot like minecraft I’m sort of surprised why people don’t compare them more often. In little big planet you’re given an open canvass and are pretty much never given an idea on what to make and to an extent anything can be created as long as you imagine it. Again.

    Minecraft is very similar in that regard but the part that sort of divides is well. Making things to interact with. You can turn inanimate objects into living things and have them do whatever you want. In minecraft you could probably create statues or figures of the patapon characters and the monsters they fight and maybe make some really awesome statues of them taking on a creature like one of those detailed dioramas.
    In little big planet I can re-enact any event from the game and could even create a function similar to the button prompts that command the patapons.
    One of them is impressive to merely look at. But the other can actually engage the player.

    I hear about those creeper creatures that apparently explode and cause havic and that’s a step in the right direction. But I haven’t heard of anyone making a castle fortress with soldiers that have the ability to attack and defend and area with weapons and siege equipment (though there was that one lego game….).
    Maybe I’m just the wrong person as I see many players making levels and stuff in little big planet that don’t really do anything other than just be there and look cool.

    I’m just the sort of person who has to do something with the something that they have. Having it isn’t really enough.

  71. March 03, 2012 at 12:59am
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    The graphics are simple because they are presenting a near infinite world that is generated on the fly. Comparing them to graphics in more traditional games with no such freedom is pointless.

    Combat is too simple. But if you think Minecraft sucks because of the poor combat, then you have completely missed the point.

    The point of the game is exploration and invention.

    If you can’t understand the thrill of exploration, the desire to see what’s behind the next bend in the cavern you’ve discovered, or what’s beyond the horizon, then I feel sorry for you. If you can’t understand the flurry of excitement one gets when they start planning their grand castle, then I feel sorry for you.

    The freedom to imagine, to explore and to create that we enjoyed when we were children is lost to us in adulthood. Minecraft lets us relive some of it, if only for a few moments. And that’s what makes it great.

  72. March 03, 2012 at 12:55am
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    While some good points were brought up, I don’t think the argument was really made that Minecraft sucks, mostly that the game needs more to be considered a traditional game. I see Minecraft more as a platform created for the users to do whatever they want. They could mindlessly mine their way into the depths of the earth, just for the sheer exploration of it, or go and build crazy cool things, or create unique missions for people to do (As Yogcast has shown), or go and join a server and build with friends.

    As a game, yeah it’s not technically a good game as what one might consider for normal game standards, but I think if you go in expecting your 10+ hour storyline, amazing combat, and engaging content, your not gonna get that, but if you want online lego’s to build whatever you want and be able to share that experience with your friends, there probably isn’t a better game out there for it.

    • March 03, 2012 at 06:53am
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      There is a better game for it, Little Big Planet 2…. By faaaaaaaaar the better game

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        That is a completely different kind of game. LBP is more about creating unique little scenarios that you can put up for people to share. Minecraft gives people complete freedom, at a much cheaper price, to let them build communities and allows people to create whatever they want for the game.

  73. March 03, 2012 at 12:53am
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    You know, saying several time that you have nothing against minecraft fan and are not trying to insult them doesn’t really work when you proceed to insult them in the same video by making them sound like retard. Apart from that, good video, even if I don’t really agree with you. The “And then shoot minecraft in the head too, so minecraft doesn’t grow up to be batman” line was pure gold.

  74. March 03, 2012 at 12:43am
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    This is what I love about your show Leon. Not afraid to speak your mind regardless of what fanboys will say. I so want you to do a episode about Western-RPGs if only to enjoy the ensuing shit-storm.

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    “Objective speaking the game is not designed well”

    Sorry, you fell right on your face with that line about. Aesthetics are purely a subjective matter. Beauty in the eye of the beholder and what not. What is considered beautiful on a scale beyond personal preference is the matter of concensus. Let me put it to you like this. If one guy says that the Mona Lisa is a peice of garbage not worthy of being admired, that does not make it ugly. If a man says a peice of red cardboard with shit smeared onto it is a masterpeice, that does not make it beautiful. The rest of the world disagrees with them on that. “Objective Asthetic Standard” and so forth, they are projecting onto the world their ideas onto the world. It is arrogent presumption. If one person does not like the way something looks and a hundred do, it looks good because it has managed to appeal to the sensibilities of a hundred times more people than to whom it fails.

    What minecraft offers is a distinct experience. Combat is but a minor aspect of it. Exploration, discovery, creation, working around foes and construction are considered to be the main part of the experience. So what if you have to figure things or talk to people or that combat, since it is a secondary aspect of the game, is given less focus.

  76. March 02, 2012 at 08:45pm
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    I think the main problem with this review is that it’s being done in the “caustic reviewer” style (to borrow a term from MartialHorror) and given the substantial fan base of the game that style just doesn’t work too well. In other words, people are more likely to be pissed off at you bashing their favorite game than to actually see the humor you’re trying to convey.

    I’d also like to respond to some of the points made in the video:

    No Tutorial: If I were reviewing this game when it first came out and there was no Minecraft Wiki or special Apps and guides I’d consider this point a bit more valid. While I doubt Notch foresaw this happening and actually planned the game that way I’m certain that the main reason a tutorial has’t been added to the game is because at this point it doesn’t need one.

    You would argue that this is a product of the community, which is a separate thing from the game itself-but I would argue that the community and the game have evolved in such a way to form a sort symbiotic relationship.

    So basically things like the Minecraft Wiki are the instruction manual and anyone new to the game would be well-advised to check it out unless they prefer the challenge of figuring things out on their own.

    Combat is simple, but there are some strategic elements to it-there are dash attacks, jump attacks, blocking etc. that have recently been introduced. Also, dealing with creepers can require a bit of strategy as well-you have to try and guide them away from anything you don’t want destroyed and if you want to try and kill them you have to keep backing away. Creepers are still annoying as hell but there is a sense of satisfaction when you actually manage to kill one without having it explode.

    I don’t think it needs a whole lot more complexity than it already has-the straightforward nature of it has an appeal to more causal players anyway.

    As for the graphics-I’d have to say it’s kind of a matter of taste really. Some people find them charming, others find them incredibly ugly. Tying back to what I mentioned earlier about the community-texture packs are an option, and there are also mods that add new graphical features to the game as well. I only wish that the features added by the HD Texture Patch would be officially integrated into the game so I wouldn’t have to re-patch it every single time.

    Why doesn’t Mojang improve the textures themselves? I wouldn’t say they’re lazy so much as that they’d rather focus on adding new features to the game.

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      What humor? I’ve watched Nostalgia Critic, Angry Joe, and Spoony for years, all of who do “caustic reviewer”, and every one of them was funny. There was no humor here, just a straight beginning to end bash of the game. He couldn’t even be bothered to use game footage. Other than that, you have really good points.

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    Some points i could agree on but at best you are making very uneducated assumptions about “minecraft” , while it’s true it could have done better in some areas like graphics , optimization and intuitiveness.
    What i can say about the graphics, they work for cause it kind of gives the game a consistent feel and you tend to overlook the blockyness when it doesn’t stick out so much like in Fortress craft for example , graphics are great but it makes the blockyness stick out like a soar thumb.
    As far as game play intuitiveness is concerned i do agree with your point of you they could include some short pointers on how to get started at least but it’s not a huge problem.
    Combat , yeah sure it sucks , but it’s not really a combat game. Mobs are merely there to give you more incentive to build first shelter, and just have a some sort of enemy to fuck around with, build traps and shit.
    There are a lot of general issues with the game if you can even call it a game.
    I do enjoy it less now cause they are taking it into a very cheap direction and making it a kill the dragon rpg kind of thing which is been done to death.
    I am really annoyed by the lack of a consistent modding api
    and their constant failure to at least make it easier for the reverse engineering crowd to add stuff.
    I am horribly annoying by the fact that Notch used java|
    the worst platform to make a java. It makes me think that notch is just a very novice programmer.
    But with all of that said , Minecraft sure as hell more fun
    then most AAA+ titles of the past 3 years with the shiny graphics. I spent more time playing minecraft then all the modern warfare , crysis , gta , combined.
    They took the idea of Infiniminer and moved to a place where
    it was actually appealing to a lot of people.
    And now i think it’s time for other developers to step in and move this genre forward.

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    You ether have a fetish to piss people off, or you don’t really know about mine craft.
    I’m not really a fan of minecraft, I don’t own it(because I don’t have a creadit card or whatever) but I have tried that, whatever it is on the site, earlier version something.

    But anyway, first of all. Minecraft is still in beta, I woudn’t expect tutorials in a game where most of it’s mechanics aren’t finished.
    And about the grafics, if they were high quality than only NASA computers will be able to run it. Have you seen some of the rediculus explosion videos? It may crash the game from over-something(that is probably becaus of optimization, but as I said it is beta). Not to mention the rediculusly big world.
    And if it really is bad, than why do so many ppl love it. A game’s quality is determent by the number of ppl enjoying it.

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      I gave you a thumbs down not because you are defending minecraft and I disagree but because you post erroneous information in ignorance or otherwise.

      Minecraft has been officially released and everything mentioned in the video is applicable to this version.

      I just don’t agree with it.

      Come on people think before you type. We can mount better arguments than this.
      You would need computers from NASA to run minecraft with better graphics? Sigh.

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        I guess I must have missed when it left beta, oh well. In that guy my argument does get nulified.

        And the NASA computer thing is over exaguration(damn hard spelling word).

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          As much of an exaggeration as saying a cow is the size of Mars. I can run Skyrim on my PC, a much more complex game. I play MineCraft, and it does not eat up as much RAM (4GB when modded) as Skyrim does. And yeah, if you did indeed miss it, 1.0 was the official release. We are now in 1.2

  79. March 02, 2012 at 12:44pm
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    Well, that being said, I know not everyone can agree on what game is good and what game isn’t. I personally loved Minecraft for how much creativity and exploration I could get from it. I have also played games that were much more uglier than this, most of the time it didn’t bother me.

    I’ve also seen and heard many people bitch against Minecraft, almost as much as you did. The graphics and the lack of goals are somewhat repelling. And of course, it’s the community that saves the value for Minecraft, that’s also the community that allowed Minecraft to even exist, sharing the experience through word of mouth and enticing people who, like me, love to explore and create.

    I don’t give two shits about the graphics. I’m surprised that you, someone who’s seemingly older than me has to drop everything off for pixelization’s sake. I also don’t give two shits about the AI. I’ve seen worse from more expensive, more mainstream games, and in Minecraft, it didn’t deter my experience with the game in the slightest. Of course I had to get taught on how to play the game, it’s one of those games where THE COMMUNITY does the work for it. Modding, tutoring, just plain playing together on a server and having fun, building or griefing, whatever.

    Not everyone may have fun getting dropped in a game and having to figure everything out for themselves. I get that. You got deterred by that? I won’t blame you. There’s alot of linear, goal-centered games on the mainstream for you to enjoy.

    There’s no magic behind the popularity of Minecraft. No soul given to the Devil. People tried it, people saw it, people enjoyed it and BOUGHT it. Some dropped after a while, most kept the fun going. It’s a sandbox game, after all. We all get bored of doing the same thing over and over, after a while.

    In my honest viewer opinion, I think you’ve just been immature with the making of this video. Right, but immature. There ARE flaws with Minecraft, just as there are flaws with many other games. A game can’t please EVERYBODY, we all have different tastes. We also all get defensive over what we love, which explains why you felt the need to preemptively shield yourself behind counter-arguments. They are valid, I can’t argue, but they also show that indeed, you missed the point of the game. You were presented with an ugly block of nothing, and didn’t know you just had to shape it in what you like, as it was intended, to even begin to like it. You wished Minecraft to burn in a fire, but you know it won’t happen for a looooooooong time. Not unless Notch decides to turn it into FortressCraft, then your wish will be friggin granted.

    All in all, don’t play this game. Spare us fans your witty remarks and go enjoy whatever games float your boat.

    oh. And Infiniminer was a game with pretty much the same goals as Delve Deeper, which is also a good game. I recommend you try these out. XD

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    Im fine with this review, I can agree minecraft isn’t the best game ever (I hate playing survival), But one part of this review annoys me. The Graphics. the blocks arn’t for a “Retro” look. if they attempted to use anything with a higher geometry level would NEVER run on a non super high-end pc. Having to render million of cubes, the least demanding 3d shape to render, at 60fps is one hell of a challenge to begin with. it they even subdivided each block ONCE, it would double the power needed, and would most likely crash. yes the textures suck and we shouldn’t have to go to external texture packs to get a decent look, but the geometry itself cant be changed.

    also, being a game developer, I think they’ve done really well for building an engine from scratch. Where most games these days are built using pre-existing engines they’ve done everything by hand, and the lighting engine is a lot to be proud of alone, let alone everything else. But this is just my opinion.

  81. March 02, 2012 at 10:33am
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    I like Minecraft and purchased it shortly before the big boom caused by the TF2 blog. So I paid 5$ for it which is a great deal, also since it was still under development it wasn’t that surprising that no real tutorial existed. Also it gave people three things that were either missing from other games at the time or not done just right: Exploration with it’s procedurally generated world, Creativity in shaping that world to your Imagination and finally Involvement in building the game itself through an open communication between maker and gamers.
    Now that they have officialy released the game I would say it’s too expensive for it’s quality and a lot of your points are correct. That they didn’t improve the graphics is most likely a marketing decision, the old look is too well known and more an asset than a hindrance regarding sales. Combat is clearly not the focus of the game and to make it really good would probably require more work than it is worth.
    What I take a bit of issue with in your video are two things: First, don’t bash Java. I won’t go into detail because I doubt you care but Java is probably the reason this game could be made by one man within a year while being pretty bug-free the entire time. Second, making an AI behave intelligently in a pretty random environment is not an easy task. Pathfinding algorithms would make most computers beg for mercy and kill any server with more than a handful of players. And any cheap hack wouldn’t make the mobs seem more intelligent, they would just suck in different ways.

  82. March 02, 2012 at 04:48am
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    All I really have to say is the phrasing of the “Minecraft’s parents should be shot in the head, and then it should be shot in the head in order for it to become batman” was not very well thought out. Mostly because everyone will now think you’re saying that Mojang/Notch should be shot in the head.

    Honestly, I enjoy Minecraft enough. The times I’ve spent with my friends and the hours filled warrants my purchase. But, really, I couldn’t make any arguments that no one else already has.

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    And Leon was kicked off Channel Awesome…NOW!

    No seriously, fun episode. I haven’t seen so much hate in one forum since the “Chink in the Armor” story. Now just make a video about why the Elder Scroll games are crap and you can officially piss off 70% of gamers. Keep up the good work.

    Also stop doing your Q&A thing when I have my exams Leon! That’s just selfish!

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    I’ll sum up my feelings for MC in one simple sentence: MC is not a game I’d pay for. Hell I wouldn’t even do it…the other way. If I wanted to build cool stuff using Lego blocks, I’d buy a box of Legos.

    The game has its fans and that’s fine but I seriously fail to see why this game is supposed to cost you money to play it. It’s an MMO and should be free to play. I see absolutely no reason for it to cost money to play it. None whatsoever.

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      If I wanted to build cool stuff, I’d probably go for Minecraft. A lot more blocks for less money.

      The reason it should cost money, is because the developers think it should.

  85. March 01, 2012 at 08:34pm
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    If you don’t like the game, you don’t like it. That’s fine. I, personally, had a lot of fun with Minecraft. Are the graphics shitty? Oh yeah. Is the combat laughable? Absolutely! Is it confusing, irritating, and requires research to even play it? Mmmhmm. Do I love it anyway? Yup.

    I don’t know what it is about the game that I enjoy. Maybe its the exploration, maybe its the ability to make crazy stuff, maybe its some subconscious mind control they put into the loading screen… But whatever it is, I like it.

    Though, I am kinda curious about what other indie titles you think are more deserving of a purchase. I’d love to get a list of them to check out.

    • March 02, 2012 at 12:02am
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      Off the top of my head…

      Braid, World of Goo, Limbo, Super Meat Boy, One Chance, and The Adventures of P.B. Winterbottom.

      • March 02, 2012 at 10:54am
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        Don’t get Braid! Don’t listen to him! Braid is damn annoying and really not a great game.

        I’m half surprised no one has called Braid out on this but instead we get attacks on creative juggernauts like minecraft because it’s popular.

      • March 03, 2012 at 06:38am
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        I’m not trying to defend Minecraft, these are great games but there is no replayability in them. Exept for Meat Boy wich is much weaker than recently released Dustforce in my opinion.

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    I always looked at Minecraft as more of a toy to play with than an actual game. If that’s not your thing, wonderful, your opinion is added to the pile with everyone else’s and it means just as much.

    Also, being the first time, I think, I’ve ever seen this individual’s work, am I the only one getting an “I wish I was Yahtzee” vibe with the over-the-top smugness?

  87. March 01, 2012 at 07:43pm
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    Well, I love the game and I’m sorry we don’t share opinions on that. However, opinions are opinions and every one is different.

    • March 01, 2012 at 08:22pm
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      That reminds me…I mean, I don’t even have Minecraft in my games folder. Silly thing to add on but I think it shows how I feel about it even though I love it to death.

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    Another great Heart of Gaming Leon keep it up!

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    I like to think of Minecraft as an MMO. It can be played alone, but it just leaves an impressive open world feeling empty. The fun comes from a shared community within the game, sharing adventures together. You’re right when you say it will “always be in development”. Like an MMO, it’s constantly expanding based of user demands. We make the game fun, the game itself is just a sandbox for us to play with.

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    THANK YOU.

    Seriously. Thank you for being one of the only voices of reason on this site about this game.

    I know you’re getting a bunch of hate for it. Well to them, Screw off. You’re more annoying than WoW fanatics.

    Thank you Leon for this video.

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    At first, I loved Minecraft because I could see the potential its game mechanics held. I would play it imagining how those and possible new mechanics would eventually be integrated as development continued and perhaps be integrated into other, possibly story driven, games. But then as time passed, I began to lose hope that Minecraft would ever evolve into the game I imagined and simply stopped playing. Mojang may yet prove me wrong one day and make Minecraft into the game I used to hope it would be. However, at this point, it has simply taken too long and I have lost my interest.

  92. March 01, 2012 at 05:19pm
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    I’m with Leon. Minecraft is overrated. It gets all this attention while other truly great indie games are overlooked.

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    Well Leon, I have to admit this episode will probably stir up alot shit. (If you don´t mind me saying so.) This episode will probably give you alot of negative reviews and comments, besides the usual fanboy gushing. And yes this has also hit me very close to home. But this is nothing new of you. Your show likes to raise discussions and topics like a projektion of Hunter Thompsons sickest books.
    What I´m saying is that you like to discuss certain elements of todays gaming-culture and thats fine. It is exactly why I started watching your series since your debut on thatguywiththeglasses.com and continue to do so. You raise questions and point out the odd behavior of games and the community behind them.
    So as a fan of both your show and the indiegiant Minecraft, I have to say:

    You are right.

    When comparing Minecraft to other games, Minecraft just falls flat on all sides. Its Tutorial is practically nonexistant, AI is dumb as a brick, Gameplay is stolen and Graphics are right there with anyone who opens Blender for the first time.

    So why is it that this “game” has such a large and powerful community behind it? It´s hardly the combat mechanics, nor the story.So what is it? What drives these people to spend hours and hours of thier weekdays playing such a “bad” game?
    Well for me personally it is about the absolut freedom that it gives you. In this randomly generated world of Minecraft you are free to do whatever the fuck you want. It may not reward you for doing it, but it doesn´t punish you either. One is free to tackle ones own objectives in the matter of thier liking. When I play other games I often feel like I´m being guided through a set path that somebody else designed for me. Like a guide through a museum, where every once in a while you are allowed to roam around in certain areas. You may argue that games like GTA, Fallout 3 or other sandbox titles aren´t like that, but I object to that. It says it right there in the title. SAND. BOX. Sooner or later you are going to walk into an invisible wall. And sooner or later you take on a mission to entertain yourself, but in the end, what is a mission? It is a Series of sequential events set on a fixed path for you to take. Sure some games allow multiple paths like the newest Deus Ex, but even there you have a finite number of ways to tackle your objective.
    So with this attitude of “Do whatever you like, however you like” come two comsequences: 1. the Player gains absolut freedom of his eviorment to do as he/she pleases, but 2. in turn looses any notion of a story. It rewards exploration but does not posses a grand image. It lacks focus and advanced evelopment of its components.
    And without the somewhat regular updates and mods from the great community around it, I would have stoped playing this game about a year ago.

    See this is, as I believe, the root of all of Minecrafts flaws but also its beauty. The game can never be like of the other games out there because they were actually developed and then finished. They have polished up thier features and assets. They have thier intelligent AI, astounding visuals and innovative Gameplay, because they actually finished development.
    Minecraft however looks and feels like a game in development. Which is the dilemma of it:

    Minecraft can never BE FINISHED, because it will always BE IN DEVELOPMENT.

    No matter what Mojang says it will always be in development in the eyes in its fans. And that is basically the reason why it has such a huge fanbase. It feels like a worldwide collaborative project in which everybody can participate and play to thier hearts comtempt. And it will never update its components to, say truly great AI or good combat, because Notch and company know, that if they do that they will alienate a major percentage of thier audience. And nobody wants that.

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      To use Leon’s own logic about fan-generated content:

      Generation of Discussion on a topic doesn’t make his “opinion” worth anything.

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    I don’t like Minecraft and agree with all you critics to the game but the ending against “game modding”.
    I think that there is place for “modding-sandbox game” that have as main aim to let you “build your world”.
    And I think that Minecreft success is caused by this: he is ugly but it is the best game to “build your world” out there anyway.
    No other game let you build you house block by block how you want and where you want.
    Games from the ’80 have evolved in graphics a lot, but not much in interaction. Minecraft is light years ahead in this field than Mass effect as mass effect is ahead on graphics.

    So all the people that are searching a game like this, must make themselves like minecraft or accept the fact that most of the gamer are graphics whore, while “interaction” that is what make a videogame different from a movie, is something that is too often underestimated.
    But give to a minecraft fan a Skyrim with in game interaction that let you completely change the world and I can bet, in few minutes they will not even remember what is minecraft.

    And I hope minecraft success can help us to obtain something like this in the future.

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    Minecraft is just one of those phenomena that I’ve never really understood !
    It’s not that I want to hate it, its just that there are games that I think work better, like Terraria which can be tons of fun especially when playing together with friends !

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    My point in my response is that this video came off as dismissive and very negative just the sake of being a troll. I’m not saying that you’re thoughts on your video isn’t true or accurate but this video came off very cheap way to get people to watch your video. It’s kind of like politics where there is only one side of the argument and there is no balance at all.
    That being said This review my be what you believe but how your tone comes off and talking down to the people who like the game really is not going to help make your case.

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      The abrasive tone is in every episode. That is the character I have been portraying for 60 episodes. It should be clear by now that I mean no real ill will and that while the opinion on the game is true, the over the top comments are meant in jest. Further, I went over many times during the episode that I have nothing against the fans themselves. I said over and over in the video that they are the only good thing about Minecraft. I said it so many times that it became redundant. I could not have been clearer.

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    This game was developed just by a few people with very little money. I’m not sure how much of this game you have played but from this video I’m guessing very little. A lot of the fun is in the communities and the fun of it’s simplicity and being creative with what you have. I’m also guessing you probably just played single player and just gave up on the game without even giving it a chance at all.

    I am going to have to disagree on just about everything you have to say in this video. You have don’t little to no research on what it is your talking about. Minecraft isn’t about playing a top of the line AAA title, but having fun with what there is. It’s about being creative and living in the simplicity of it.

    The whole retro graphics you’re complain about and what they went with. It had nothing to do about being lazy and poor design, it was about the simplicity again and letting the user be creative. I’m guessing you never played those old DOS games, text based RPGs or anything that is more then a few years old.

    About the controls and combat AGAIN it’s about its simplicity!

    About the AI. I guess you never played with a group of people and been bombarded with creepers and other monsters. There is challenge in the game. That is unless you put it on super easy and never explore the world at all.

    Way to be condescending and a asshole in your whole review. This whole review is trolling and link bate. How do you like that. Just jumping to conclusion without any basis and saying it’s bad because it doesn’t look pretty and its doesn’t have the most advanced controls ever is stupid and arrogant and over all childish.

    Seriously Check out the Video Games Awesome Minecraft challenge builds. They are so rich and full of detail and just tons of fun. I have never had so much fun in playing and watching a game. May that will help ease your pain.

  98. March 01, 2012 at 12:35pm
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    I’ve played Minecraft, I think it’s fun. I liked lego as a kid, and when I have something to think of building, Minecraft can be fun too.

    It’s not really a game past that though. Let’s imagine for a moment you’re playing the game for the content – not playing lego.

    The attempts at creating adventure in the game like dungeons with chests, or the fortresses that contain the End portals (I’m not going to address in detail how lame it is you have to *grind* all those damn ender pearls because they disappear half the time) or The End itself – there’s nothing of interest to find in these places. No extra reward for any risk you’re taking, or for adventuring.

    They added in brewing for potions, but in order to craft the station, you have to go to the Nether. What do I need the potions for if I’m already wandering around in the most “dangerous” area in the game? I suppose there’s the Ender Dragon, but there’s no reason to even bother fighting it unless you want to be bored to death for like 10 minutes.

    Then of course there’s enchanting, which is… awful. I beat the hell out of monsters trying to get up to level 30 or so, which I then *spend* and go back to level 0 on a random enchantment which turns out it’s not even the one I wanted? Oh, and then after I’ve enchanted it – it just breaks like any other item in the game, which means that the item lasts far less time then it took me to enchant it in the first place, so there’s no point in actually enchanting anything.

    That’s really bad design. Furthermore, why would I need to enchant anything with the combat being so simple, and the monsters being so stupid? I have no recollection of dying in minecraft other then goofing off with a friend & jumping off things we built into a much too small pool at the bottom.

    As a playground, yes it’s fun – but at the first opportunity I’m replacing textures, and adding mod packs to add features and make it look better. So if my first instinct is to take what is the game, and then replace it right away, what was there to begin with isn’t very good.

    I think what people enjoy in minecraft are the games that they create for themselves while they play it. Like Dead Island or Borderlands – they’re not good games, but people like having fun with their friends, and because they have fun while playing it – even though that fun is independent of the game itself, they think that it makes the game good. It doesn’t.

  99. March 01, 2012 at 12:07pm
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    You have a point, the production quality of minecraft is pretty shitty and I can understand if its no fun for you.

    But I have fun with minecraft and honestly if that is given and the content warrants more than 4 hours of gameplay, to me that’s all it takes to make a good game.

  100. March 01, 2012 at 10:49am
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    Given that, from the beginning, I’m clearly going to have a different opinion and that I don’t think you’re wrong by simply having your own, I’m really baffled by your argument.

    As someone ostensibly familiar with how a game works, I assume you can figure out why a game rendering thousands upon thousands of dynamic objects would benefit from low polygon count and rough textures. Yes, it looks ugly compared to modern games. A game that large with graphics that good would require much better hardware and much more disk space. Now, you can practically fit it on a floppy disk.

    Unintuitive? I’ll grant you that. I also grant that it’s irrelevant. If you know roughly what to do in the first 5 minutes, the rest of the game is in no way hampered by the lack of a tutorial. And for those first 5 minutes, if you are so put off by the game you aren’t going to bother to look it up, I’d argue that there was no genuine interest in the game to begin with.

    Combat? It’s not a combat focused game. It’s like complaining about Call of Duty not featuring deep and complex RPG elements. Combat in Minecraft is based on the idea of either harvesting resources or making an area safe. The enemies are not generally obstacles to be overcome like most games. Does that make it bad? I’d argue it’s no worse than natural disasters in Sim City, and is just as easy to turn off.

  101. March 01, 2012 at 10:34am
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    One more thing, and then I’ll leave this alone. I’m pleased this has generated so much debate. That is the intention. Not to “troll” my audience. That’s a dismissive, narrow comment, not to mention wildly presumptuous because it suggests I am not giving my honest opinion. Debate the merits of the game. Don’t re-write someone’s intentions.

    Thank you.

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      Fine, but you’re not “debating the merits of the game”. You’re pretty clearly going after aspects of it that aren’t meant to be merits or even well developed while ignoring any merits it may have at all.

      Granted, you’re ignoring the merits because these are qualities that wouldn’t appeal to you in ~any~ game, but where does that really leave us?

      This revi- er, “opinion” is essentially you snarking on on a cigarette boat for it’s lack of wheels.

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    Love your series, Leon. The dark humor and the way you tell how you feel about things in each episode is always awesome. *licks boot since this problem sounded like boot licking*

    That aside. I find Minecraft’s graphics cute, but they aren’t too appealing. I can’t get into the game more due to the free version. The fact that I found out it takes more patience than skill to create the things in the game doesn’t really hurt my amazement at the patience people have with it. I can’t even figure out a text adventure game and someone is able to spend weeks building something in Minecraft.

    Come to think of it, I only play text adventure games to swear and see how the game reacts. I wonder how many are building signs in Minecraft that are extremely rude and full of swears right now…

    I highly agree with the whole external resources aren’t the game or make the game thing. I might have said that wrong, though. The minute this was mentioned, I immediately thought about how Oblivion isn’t an amazing game just because there’s great mods for it. I didn’t really see much retro in Minecraft’s graphics, though I have never played the payed for version.

    The graphics just look like a better version of Runescape. You actually get more than a lousy, nearly meaningless level up for chopping down a tree in Minecraft, for one. You can actually use that wood for something that isn’t time consuming level grinding.

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    And that’s why I play Terraria!

    Ok sorry, I couldn’t resist joking about it. But for what it’s worth i’m not against Minecraft, I see it’s appeal as a sandbox that allows to create pretty much anything. Not much else I can say about it aside that it’s a terrific time killer as long as you got a plan and know what you’re doing.

  104. March 01, 2012 at 10:16am
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    I spent all last night finding a solution to the audio issue. Got it. The fix will be reflected in the next episode. New equipment. Growing pains.

  105. March 01, 2012 at 09:07am
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    Why should I listen to anything this guy says, when he’s to retarded to even record his sound in stereo?

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    1. The art looks bad.
    Well I’m not going to argue aesthetics but I like Minecrafts voxel art. Also to have “reto” graphics you either have to do so out of irony or homage? Didn’t know you had to be a hipster to implement these things.
    Gaming is a visual medium and Minecraft is very unique and differentiated that the look itself spawned imitators in Terraria, Fortresscraft, ect.
    Minecraft is about building beautiful worlds? No. You are wrong and you attached that “beautiful” part at the end to justify your opinion. Minecraft is not about making beautiful worlds. Basing value on preconceived notions of beauty is old hat. Just look to painters like Pollock, Bacon, and others. Visually you could easily say they are ugly but that’s not where the beauty lies in these painters works. For Pollock its the motions he uses, the kenetic energy in which he paints which is easily felt by an audience looking at the finished work. Similarly minecraft’s beauty does not come from simple aesthetic and great world design (especially due to the randomized nature of the world’s geography) instead minecraft is created in broad strokes intended to be explored and look playful.

    2. Ignore the singleplayer? That’s baffling because that’s all I do. I like creating little hideouts and mines. I enjoy looking for rare materials and fending off the nights foes. If that’s not a game I don’t know what is.

    I don’t want this to get any longer so I’ll compare your review to this analogy:

    Minecraft is a bad game like Lego is a bad toy.
    I think not sir and I disagree.

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    You do have a point, I actually agree with you.
    (I know shocking right when you look at the hate I predicted I would have?)
    I never fully understood understood why I love minecraft so much. (I stopped playing because I was done with it but I still love it)

    - The combat never did anything for me even modded with mcmmo, I did it because i had to, to survive in the game.
    - the game does look ugly and not retro a all, (well I once tried a game that tried to be 3d and ….. nvm not the point here) I guess the ugliness did something for me somehow???
    - I bought the game for laughs because it looked ugly and I stayed because it did something to me, I guess because I like to create stuff and I bought this game already anyway???

    the one credit I can give this game except that it grabbed me and hold me by my balls for over a year, is not an unique thing. The game is really open to modding, (and so is the development team,) that allows the game with and o.k. concept to be adapted to the desire of a bigger group of people. The mods and texture packs aren’t the credit, but the game acceptance are (to me)

    We can not deny it, Notch made this game and NEVER expected it to be so big, that is the main reason why this game looks how it looks and is how it is, it was a silly project that just happened to be picked up. Notch was just smart enough to act in such a manor that he became a rich man (and this is not to attack our Swedish god).

    The blocks where done for a simple reason, it was easy to code, that’s it. and because the world was blocky he made everything blocky because a round pig in a square world would look stupid.

    You know what mainly did it for me? The great community (and with that I deny the existence of grievers). That is almost no credit to the game it self.

    Thank you.

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    Good Ole Blistered Thumbs “We can’t create good content, so let’s troll our idiot users” is out in full force here. Of course BT can’t even troll right, given that most of the complaints here are almost as old as Minecraft anyway.

    You know what I loved as a kid? Legos. I would have these epic battles between pirates and knights (or whatever other pieces I had) in and around these places I had built. It didn’t matter if they were fighting over a picket fence lovely house or a medieval castle. It didn’t have to make sense to anyone else, I enjoyed it. Minecraft is quite simply legos for your computer. Who cares what Douche Tool #2 thinks about it?

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    First off, Love Heart of Gaming.

    Second, though, Leon has a point, even going with the posts defending the “game,” the entire fanfare on the “game” has been created by the user. Pretty much Sim City or any type of creation engine. Like a “Do-it-Yourself” adventure, its a cool concept and some of the creations are awesome, but again, its user-created content. It’s lazy programming, through and through.

    Also a lot of hate for the featured reviews/shows today on Blistered Thumbs. Zeitgeist’s random stab at Kindgoms of Amalur fans and now this. Must be something in the water @ Blistered Thumbs.

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    1. That’s not the point. The point is that you misrepresented the combat either willfully or because of lack of research.

    2. Depends on if you run the 1.2 preview or not. (which is/was available as of the posting)

    3. I’ll agree on the blocky, but ugly is a matter of opinion… One which I happen to disagree with.

    4. Your monophonic sound is both ugly and poorly edited.

    You should not be “fine” with mediocrity. If you are going to insult games for being poorly executed, lazy, etc., you could at least have a little regard to your own show’s production quality and the accuracy of its content.

    (Thanks for responding)

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    1) A game isn’t bad just because it’s based on something. Trying to give it a negative point because it was inspired by Infiniminer is silly.

    2) Your opinion is fine, The game looks unappealing to you. But maybe some people like the look of it? Graphic wise the game works. It’s about limitations as much as it is over coming them. Bad graphics to me are those that just don’t fit or make it hard to play the game. Minecraft is bright and it’s not hard to tell what things are, even while being blocky.

    3) The game doesn’t suck because you have to look up info about how to play it. That doesn’t make it broken. In fact I think that may be a hidden gem about the game. If it sucked people wouldn’t bother looking info up. However the game makes you want to learn and not being presented fully in game allows you to skip long boring tutorials. Let’s be real, in a world where the internet is almost accessible everywhere, This type of teaching works. It’s pretty much the point.

    4) At some point I’ll agree with you, However Minecraft is again, about the experience people have playing it. The world exploration, and while things can be simplistic and such. It’s about immersion. I accept you can’t get into the game, but that’s personal preference.

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    Your argument seems to be missing the most important aspect to a game like this. Try and consider games that are out now retro or not or even indie games. You have Call of Duty, FPS game, nothing more nothing less, you play for what it is. God of War an action game kill gods and perform quick action triggers while watching pretty Cutscenes, nothing more nothing less.

    Braid, a puzzle game witha story nothing more nothing less. Now what does Minecraft have that these 3 don’t. While you say that Minecraft isn’t user friendly, the fact that it allows one to mod it makes it user friendly since it allows a player to be creative and expand the longevity of the game by allowing them to add their own personality to it. A lot of games aren’t very creative they only allow you to play as the creator intended but when giving the tools to create mods you create a sense of wonder over what the playerbase creates.

    Based on your review of Minecraft you are saying that Star Craft and Warcraft suck because the mods used to create unique and clever games should no be counted in the product but the source of the game allowed it which technically makes it part of the game. You keep saying that this is an objective review but you don’t exactly base Minecraft on something that is similar rather games that are set with their own rules that you have to follow. As mentioned Braid and Minecraft have completly different ideals to why they were made Braid is a game that was a story and puzzle while Minecraft is a game to allow a creative outlet, a game that allows one to do what they want.

    You also appear to be mad at how other indie games aren’t being purchased over this but again you have to say to yourself, what games would Minecraft users want to buy that are better then minecraft and offer the same things as Minecraft. You only say that there are better indie games but you don’t even list any examples and if you do explain why a Minecraft user would want to play that rather then this game.

    On a final note community is very important, even though you don’t seem to take it into account when making this review and say that you don’t want to offend the playerbase but by what you say you are telling the players that their community is built on a shitty game. There aren’t many communities that offer this similar outlet a majority of communities boil down to FPS vs or co-op or fighting games.

    But here is a game where a community can be created where people can create their own adventures for others to challenge or teamup to build amazing areas so honestly you can’t base a game’s worth on one aspect just because you don’t like it, you have to base it on everything. A review like this is like reviewing any game that has come out now through the eyes of a single player game even if it does offer multi-player experience.

    Also I’m not a fanboy of this game, I just understand the community behind it. It’s a game that allows one to be creative and show it off to others within their community. You don’t have to spend money on legos, if you have the game you have limitless space and blocks to work with, you don’t have to clutter your room with blocks or buy more if you run out. All you do is just head out and mine more of what you need or play in creative mode. Now that I think about it, you fail to mention the different modes in this game as well as the reandom seed generator to make each world unique.

    You fail to bring up that this game can have a sense of danger through Hardcore mode where when you die once your world is deleted or as mentioned above Creative mode where you are given unlimited mats to create masterpieces without having to take the time to mine for them.

    Graphics, you contradic yourself saying that they don’t matter much to you but then complain about how they look here, and you don’t even mention how they do have decent coding when it comes to day/night cycle as well as weather effects. But remember the greater the graphics the harder it is support a large playerbase in a world, as well as a stronger computer needed to support a server.

    That’s my peace with it all, there might be more to it but your overall review just comes off as missing the point of this game, perhaps you just don’t enjoy an outlet to be creative like that and if that’s the case fine, but to try and say this is an objective review is quite false since it appears to be based purely on your opinion of the game at it’s pure core rather then it’s fully fleshed out vision.

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    until now i was on the fence about this game.
    now i fully dislike it and agree with every thing he said

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    By the way, saying “I hope Minecraft is shot in an alley so it doesn’t grow up to be Batman” is one of the LEAST offensive jokes I have ever made on Heart of Gaming. This show gets waaaay darker than that.

    OK, enough responses for now. Time for sleep.

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    Heh, I think that this was mostly reasonable. It’s true, Minecraft on its own just barely gets by. Single player is super boring, and the default texture pack doesn’t look good. But I have had tons of fun playing it, and I feel like the money I spent on it wasn’t wasted.

  116. March 01, 2012 at 01:30am
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    This is a troll review, right? I mean, this wasn’t serious… right? I mean the basis of the arguments presented here are as simplistic as some of the players of Minecraft (me excluded >_>).

    Bad combat? You just defend yourself, there’s not much too it.

    Bad graphics? It’s nothing to win awards with, I give you that, but it’s nothing to really bitch about three times over.

    Boring? Only to someone with nothing to build or no friends to build with.

    Least user-friendly game? Um I never had a problem with it, in fact I thought it was a rather pick up and go type of thing. Everything at first was trial and error sure (finding out the Creeper blast radius sucked), and as soon as it went from beta to 1.0 it seemed there was a lot there to help the player from both achievements (which hint how to do this) to the Helpme file.

    You hope that the parents of Notch and the rest of Mojang get shot in an alley? And I’m suppose to take your review with any credibility after that? That’s something a troll on Newgrounds would say.

    Why not just chalk up the game up to this: It’s not for everyone. I have fun wtih it because I get bored one day and wanna see if I can make a recreation of Baron Castle from Final Fantasy 4. Do I have better things to do with my time? Sure, I could level my toons on The Old Republic, I could unsubscribe to World of Warcraft, I could finally get to max level on Skyrim, I could get laid, I could get Tales of the Abyss for the 3DS and see if that version is better over the PS2 version. I have fun with it, and the $15 CDN I paid for it is relatively decent for the content I play with.

    And to kind of critique the review itself. I’ll be honest in that I haven’t been watching these since day one of your time here, but why isn’t there gameplay footage to back up the arguments you have. Like you say the combat sucks: Okay, so you should be showing a moment where you punch a zombie to death to show how repetative the practice is. Instead, I see the process of mining (to which yes I did see the irony to it). Presenting an argument and giving either examples or citation is basically essay writing 101. All I got from this was not “Minecraft sucks, here’s the break down to my reasons” but instead all I heard was “I hate Minecraft, so suck it.” And to that I say “okay, you hate the game. So what?”

    Also, this review had a glaring audio error that, unless the transfer to the website cause it, should have been looked at in editing. For the entire review your voice was in the left side, and loud, in both my headphones and my speakers. I checked your other ones to see if it wasn’t just this one that it was doing it too, but the others were fine.

    So to wrap up: This didn’t seem like a review but just a way to insult the game, the audio was terrible, the visuals didn’t give examples to your problems, and wishing someone’s parents to die for their work is more trollish than it is professional.

    • March 01, 2012 at 01:32am
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      No, of course I don’t hope anyone is shot in an alley. “The parents of Minecraft” meaning fictional parents of a personification of a game. It’s a joke, and that should be obvious by the Batman reference.

      I went over many reasons why I believe it is objectively a bad game.

      • March 01, 2012 at 01:40am
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        OH yay Batman references… But still give me a reason how I should find this review credible, based on what I commented on.

        • March 01, 2012 at 01:43am
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          Do you want me to rehash what I already said?

          I don’t believe that chalking up the experience as “it’s not for everyone” leaves something immune to criticism. The combat is simplistic and boring, and the world is ugly. We can disagree, and that’s fine, but I find the argument of “You’re trolling!” to be dismissive. It’s not trolling if you believe what you said, and I went over every complaint in great detail in the video.

          • March 01, 2012 at 01:44am
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            And I thank you for the constructive reply.

          • March 03, 2012 at 09:36pm
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            Really, I find myself with a legitimate reason to quote this?

            “Methinks he doth protest too much!”

            Your defense of a reviewing style Blistered Thumbs hates is always either “I was kidding!” or “you can’t fault me for an opinion.” No one else on this site or TGWTG even THINKS they can get away with this. If you are offending your fan base, how is that the fans’ fault? And yes, this has been every single one of your replies. This is unprofessional. If you are like any of the other reviewers, you are being paid for this. You don’t have to make everyone happy, but every viewer you offend outright is a viewer that never tunes in again aand a step towards cancellation. You have a right to your opinion and I won’t fault you for it. But people are turned off by your method, and you can’t just blame them all. That is the risk of seeking an audience to begin with.

          • March 04, 2012 at 08:45am
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            The admonition that something is “not for everyone” doesn’t render it immune to criticism, no.

            However, critiquing something based on qualities it’s pretty clearly not meant to have isn’t precisely what I’d call “criticism” either.

            “Absurdity” would be a better word for it, I think.

      • March 03, 2012 at 06:23pm
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        An opinion is always an opinion and I can’t argue there with you. If you don’t like Minecraft for your reasons that’s all fine and I won’t get provocative because I can see why you don’t like it. You got your style of show and it just doesn’t pull me in. Somehow I found Spoony rants so much better…

        So instead I will just say what I think and feel. I think that the reason why Minecraft is a good game and has a huge comunity is due to the sole realson that you NEED someone to share it with. You got an nearly endless world of resourses and space. It does get lonely. Either that you will find yourself in need of help with builing or something else basic in the game or you want to share an experiece or a construction. The game is made so that you need someone to share it with and that is both a blessing and a fault on the games part, but is due the game none the less. That’s what this game has and it’s so fundamental that you can’t take it away from it just by saying that it’s not to the games credit that it has a comunity. If the game is built to be lacking in tutorial and feels lonely playing it solo, but great when played in comunity with others and that in return creates an comunity then that is to the games credit. At least that’s what my opinion is.
        Opinions are forever.

  117. March 01, 2012 at 01:26am
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    Damn! That was harsh, as usual.
    I consider myself a moderate Minecraft fan, and although I do agree with many of your points, most of those things didn’t really bother me all that much. At least not enough to stop me from playing. After all I didn’t dump countless hours into a game I didn’t like.
    I just found the game really addictive. I kind of compare it to an MMORPG. Sure you’re basically doing the same shit over and over again, and there are a ton of games I could be playing that would be much more entertaining, but I keep playing to see my world/character develop. The difference being that with Minecraft, there is at least some creativity involved.This was at least the main reason I kept playing it.
    Although I eventually burnt out on Minecraft, I still like it, though I think one of the main reasons a lot of people, (including myself,) like Minecraft is because almost anyone can play the game for 2 hours and come up with a 100 completely doable things that would make it the best fucking game ever. The problem is of course that it is unrealistic to expect all, if any of those things to ever be implemented, since Mojang is a tiny company.
    Personally I’m hoping some bigger budget Minecraft ripoffs show up, since it is a nice genre that would love to see taken in many different directions.

  118. March 01, 2012 at 01:25am
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    Wow first comment, ok no presure. While I do agree with you on some points I thought there was one main thing you left out. The reason why so many people enjoy this game is because of the unlimited posablilies. “I want to make a giant troll face” go ahead. “I want to creat mozarts 9th synphony using the note blocks” have fun. “I want my mommy to not die from caseer” ummm… The piont is the perpose of this game is to do what ever you want. This is why the games makes MODing so easy. The goals are created by your self and when your done there is a sence of acomplishment. Games now days are very liner, you do what you are told to do notting else. Thats why so many people like this game. I do believe this is a very good game, far from a perfect one, but a good game none the less.

    • March 01, 2012 at 01:26am
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      NOT FIRST :( my mistake

    • March 01, 2012 at 02:18am
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      RE: “The reason why so many people enjoy this game is because of the unlimited posablilies. “I want to make a giant troll face” go ahead. “I want to creat mozarts 9th synphony using the note blocks” have fun.”

      It’s more like… Do you want to make a blocky figure resembling a troll face, or recreate something that sounds kind of close to Mozarts 9th sonata? Good luck!

      Once you run around and spend a ludicrous amount of time gathering your materials, and you do eventually build your silly little “structure”… Then what?

      Do it again?

      For what? Nobody gives two shits about your “castle”, and frankly, nothing makes yours any different from others. You have the same crap as the next guy.. The only thing that can make a structure any different than any other, is a crappy sign you can put up.

      I appreciate the time and effort a lot of people have put into their recreations of things like the town from Red Dead, Springfield from The Simpsons, etc… But at the end of the day it’s just a ghost town with nothing to do in it.

  119. March 01, 2012 at 01:19am
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    1. You fail to mention blocking, archery, or splash potions when talking about combat.

    2. version 1.2 which I believe launches later today, improves AI movement

    3. Minecraft isn’t just about building beautiful worlds, It’s also about exploring, experimenting, and eventually defeating a Dragon

    4. I only hear your voice in the left but the music on both channels.

    (I do agree with you about user-friendliness…)
    (Oh… I also like Quantic Dream)

    • March 01, 2012 at 01:25am
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      “and eventually defeating a Dragon”

      Cue the viking battle chants…

      Dovahkiin, Dovahkiin, not a single sardine!
      Obadiah, vocal, no far orchestral!

      • March 01, 2012 at 01:26am
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        Or if you prefer,

        Jigga-Jigga JAAA! Jigga-Jigga Jaaa!
        TROGDORRRRRRRRR!!

      • March 03, 2012 at 09:41pm
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        One astral dragon, on one hand. Thousands of normal dragons on the other. Yeah, total ripoff. I also remember in Skyrim where I had to kill dozens of shadow men for their pearls and infiltrate a randomly generated dungeon to place said stones around an altar to power a stargate to the dragon’s homeworld. I also remember taking that dragon’s egg home with me.

        Oh, and Sonic the Hedgehog reminds me of another side-scrolling game with head-stomping and pickup items. What was its name again?

    • March 01, 2012 at 01:28am
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      1. The combat is still atrocious.

      2. The AI explanation is accurate as of the posting.

      3. The world you explore and the dragon are both ugly and blocky.

      4. So long as you can hear it in general, I’m fine with that.

      • March 01, 2012 at 08:00pm
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        The graphics are blocky to resemble the N64, and the game has a unique art direction. Apparently having a unique style means it’s ugly.

        • March 02, 2012 at 11:46am
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          I’m sorry, N64 was never the prettiest graphics ever, but it was never that bad. So lets say they were paying homage to N64 graphics, they did a shitty job. That’s not to say they don’t have their fans, you can take a urinal from a NY subway station and call it art (literally), just because people like it doesn’t mean it’s good. But hey, if you do like the graphics of course you think it’s good. Honestly Leon saying the developers weren’t going for a retro look is the same as posters saying Leon is just making videos to troll people, rewriting intentions based on opinions.

          That being said, what is the measure of a good game? Is it graphics? Game play? Sound design? Granted Minecraft fails on many basic levels, but it also works on the most important level, user satisfaction. Of course no game works for everyone, that much should be expected, but the fact that it has such a large and devoted fan-base means it’s doing something right. And yeah, a lot of Minecraft’s success is not based on it’s own merits but outside factors, like people being able to post Youtube videos of their houses or mods to make the game more fun.

          I think what I’m trying to say is, a game can be a shitty game, but can still be good. It’s like movies that are so bad they’re good, objectively they fail at movie trade craft, but they’re entertaining. And ultimately that’s the only thing that’s important about a game, whether or not it’s entertaining. It’s not like better graphics would save a game like Superman 64.

          • March 03, 2012 at 12:23am
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            Honestly you can’t say he made this video to not get a negative reaction out of people. When I first started to play minecraft, sure I was lost and didn’t know what to do but it made it feel like everything about the game was an adventure that never ended. I have been playing for almost a year and I’m still finding out new stuff. I couldn’t give a shit about the countless gameplay commentary’s, mods, texture packs or anything else. I love the game for the gameplay, graphics, music and the countless hours of mining, crafting, fighting and building a kick ass house to defend me from creepers. And the game is not a button masher, calling it a button masher is an insult, every enemy has a unique way of killing it. The way he presented the game made it look like he played the game for 5 minutes, googled minecraft, spelled it wrong, then gave his general opinion. And he has a nice condescending attitude, he says it’s ok to like the game, then mocks the games fans. If he doesn’t like the game fine, but you don’t have to be a jerk about it.

      • March 03, 2012 at 08:00am
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        So long as I can play Minecraft in general, I’m fine with that to.

      • March 03, 2012 at 09:09am
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        The problem is that you play the game in a completely – excuse me – retarded manner. You take Minecraft in its pure form and play it like you would any adventure game. That is NOT how you play Minecraft.

        To play the game appropriately, you need either creative mode, or modifications of some sort. It’s that simple.

        There are adventure maps for you to play, or you can make some for yourself. There are beautiful cities to be explored, or you can build one yourself.

        Or, if you want to actually play a survival game, you can head to the forums and get mods to actually make it a survival game. Any other course of action is the equivalent of running into a brick wall on the roadside and then complaining that this is the fault of those who built it.

        This is ALSO the reason for why the simplicity of the graphics is a good thing and a stroke of luck, for it allows modders to come up with the new content that makes Minecraft what it is. Yes, the game is shitty if taken on its own.

        BUT.

        Minecraft is not about itself. It’s about the creations of its players, whether you make them yourself or get them from someone else.

        In fact, Minecraft is less of a game than it is a sort of Art API, you know what I’m saying? I hope you do.

      • March 03, 2012 at 11:40am
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        The AI explanation is NOT accurated s of the posting time, because, by then, 1.2.2 was already live.

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