Dragon Age II Expansion Scrapped, BioWare moves on to the Future
Mark Darrah, one of the executive producers of Dragon Age II, has announced that the team is moving on from the semi-sordid tale of Hawke and his companions for good.
Posted By Johnny Maloney about 9 months, 3 weeks ago
The best friend feud between Electronic Arts and Valve continues to grow. Crysis 2 having been pulled from the ranks of the Steam store some weeks ago due to a DLC distribution conflict, Dragon Age II also mysteriously has disappeared from the virtual shelves of Valve’s digital distribution platform and just as its brand new DLC was released to the clamoring public. Is it coincidence? No, not even slightly.
In a statement to IGN earlier, Senior VP David DeMartini outlined EA’s problems with the Steam platform.
Electronic Arts continues to stand by the statement that they have nothing to do with the decision to remove their titles from Steam. They call Valve’s terms ‘restrictive’ and ‘limiting.’ Does this smack just a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black? Prior to this (and indeed right now) the only way one was capable of getting DLC for EA’s Bioware RPGs was to buy them directly from the Bioware store. Does that seem restrictive? Or is Electronic Arts just posturing and trying to gracefully exit from Steam while not trying to seem like they’re the ones stirring up trouble?
Source: IGN
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Mark Darrah, one of the executive producers of Dragon Age II, has announced that the team is moving on from the semi-sordid tale of Hawke and his companions for good.
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Mark Darrah, one of the executive producers of Dragon Age II, has announced that the team is moving on from the semi-sordid tale of Hawke and his companions for good.
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The digital distribution food fight continues with Electronic Arts claiming that Valve’s draconian terms and conditions of Steam have forced them to remove Dragon Age II from the store shelves of Valve’s baby. Does this all amount to egg on somebody’s face?
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Dragon Age 2 was, for any number of reasons, one of the more divisive games to come out from Bioware in some time. Some people thought it was a brilliant reinvention of the franchise, while others saw it as unnecessary tinkering with an already successful formula. Now the first major piece of DLC for the game has hit the digital shelves in the form of a new content based expansion titled Legacy. Does this previously unexplored story of the Hawke bring glory to the family name or is it simply another example of good intentions gone horribly awry?
| PROS | Good story, enjoyable tweaks to DA2 combat, well designed environments |
| CONS | Only makes small changes to overall DA2 formula, poor ally AI, some bugs present, |
| WTF?! | Whatever insanity is going on with Larius’ hair |
Dragon Age: Origins had a decidedly mixed success rate when it came to the various examples of DLC released for the game. Outside of Awakening (which could have easily been a completely stand-alone game in the first place), the remainder of Origin’s expansions were fairly pointless affairs that did little to add to the overall experience of the original game. So it was with some trepidation that I began my journey through Legacy, the first major expansion for Dragon Age 2. Thankfully, what I got was less the kind of DLC that the original Dragon Age: Origins tended to produce, and instead an experience more akin to the excellent expansions that Mass Effect 2 continuously rewards fans of that game with.
Legacy tells a previously untold adventure of Hawke and company that can be accessed at almost any point in the game, including post-ending. The game opens with the now familiar scene of everyone’s favorite dwarf Varric being interrogated by the dour templar Cassandra. She brings up the fact that Varric has been less than forthcoming about a certain adventure Hawke had undertaken in regards to a previously unknown Grey Warden prison. With a shrug and his trademark grin, Varric agrees to tell the tale, but warns Cassandra that she will likely never believe how an encounter with the mafia-esque dwarven organization known as the Carta would lead Hawke to heretofore undiscovered familial secrets and, ultimately, into a confrontation with an entity out of the darkest recesses of the history of Thedas itself…
Legacy’s story is a well done and highly enjoyable narrative. While it never reaches the depths and complexities of the game’s main narrative, it none-the-less weaves an engaging yarn that has major implications for both Hawke and the overarching mythology of the Dragon Age universe. Depending on which characters a player chooses to bring with them, Legacy also gives the other party members (Varric, the Hawke sibling, and Anders in particular) a good amount to say and do, a fact that only serves to make the expansion’s story all the more engaging. Legacy’s climax also features the kind of tricky choices that Bioware likes to include in their games, with the aftermath of said choices promising repercussions for players somewhere down the line, be it in another expansion or possibility even Dragon Age 3. Overall, Legacy produces a tale that stands well enough on its own while also introducing elements that serve to hint at where the next major chapter in the Dragon Age saga is likely to be heading.
Legacy does not dramatically change Dragon Age 2′s approach to gameplay, but it does feature some significant tweaks that help to freshen up the overall experience. First and foremost, Legacy almost entirely (save for one brief encounter early on in the expansion) does away with the kind of limited and repetitive dungeon design that helped to mar the overall experience of DA2. There is nice amount of visual variety in the various areas that make up the Warden’s Prison, ranging from a desert landscape to crumbling dungeon tunnels to the mist filled caverns beneath the prison proper, and the layout of said areas is similarly less straightforward than what was typically encountered in DA2 proper. While Legacy is still a fairly linear affair, it at least features more than one straight corridor after another stitched together. The expansion even includes a good number of wholly optional side areas to explore, many of which play a part in Legacy’s handful of similarly optional side-quests.
Combat also tends to be both more difficult and enjoyable in Legacy, with a number of interesting new enemy types, such as the Genlock Alpha whose large shield makes him nearly immune to frontal attacks, present to give players new challenges to deal with. The lack of repeated homogeneous dungeon layouts also lets Bioware be cleverer in the placement and makeup of enemy encounters. Frequent ambushes (in the form of enemies positioned so that they blend nearly seamlessly into the environment or by having a smaller force flee and draw the party into larger encounters) abound, while the expansion’s various sub-boss encounters tend to feature more varied tactics than simply throwing a bunch of random enemies at the party. The final boss encounter in Legacy is particularly noteworthy, and it is easily among (if not simply the) most difficult encounters to be had within the entirety of Dragon Age 2. To be fair, this difficulty does arise in part because the game’s finicky party A.I. can easily lead to defeat without careful management on the part of the player, but this is a relatively minor annoyance in light of how genuinely epic and fun this boss fight ultimately turns out to be.
All in all, Legacy is a highly enjoyable experience but that is not to say it does not have its fair share of flaws. Legacy never reaches the level of ambition or accomplishment that the best Mass Effect 2 expansions strived for, such as introducing new/unique gameplay elements or creating locations with an almost startling level beauty. While the aforementioned gameplay tweaks do improve thing to a degree, ultimately Legacy plays near identically to the way it progenitor did. Also, while the Warden’s Prison looks better than most DA2 dungeons did, it never reaches the level of visual design that Bioware was able to achieve during the exploration of the Atlas Station or the exterior of the Shadow Broker’s lair.
In essence how players will feel about Legacy will largely depend on their overall feelings about Dragon Age 2 in general. Personally, I walked away from my time with the expansion feeling like I got my money’s worth, but I also was someone who never found the weaknesses of DA2 ever came close to outweighing its strengths. For someone who absolutely hated DA2, Legacy will do little to change this opinion. On the other hand, for those who enjoyed DA2 but wished it had more closely resembled Dragon Age: Origins, then Legacy could very well be exactly the kind of experience the kind of expansion you are looking for. While Legacy never reaches the heights that such Bioware expansions as Lair of the Shadow Broker or Overlord did, it also never hits the lows of Witch Hunt or The Golems of Amgarrak either. It remains an enjoyable and robust three to four hour experience, one that also hopefully bodes well for whatever future Dragon Age 2 downloadable content is yet to come.
A review copy of this game was purchased on PC by the reviewer. The reviewer spent approximately four hours playing the game and the game was completed.
Without a doubt the DLC which serves as the role model to all overs from BioWare is Lair of the Shadow Broker: it adds to the story, plays a vital to a former squard member, has a plot which which is on par with the main plot, great visuals and music and gives the player quite a bit more once it is over.
Awakening also did it’s job well but it could benefit from having being extended but it’s good on it’s own merits. Owning a land, hiring recruits, taking care of the land, making the fort and forces more powerful and a chance to continue the story from origins was nice. But dealing with a conspiricy with various ways to do so was a woudnerful addition.
As for Legacy any reason to be in a freaking different area and fight different foes is a plus. While I don’t miss the overly complciated chess style of gameplay Origins had I feal that having faster combat a to higher price to pay when everything else gets croped to a bare skeleton.
I’m going to wait until DA2 comes down in price or releases a GOTY edition to see if the love/hate relationship is as deservedly ambivalent as it is.
Yeah,
Bioware said that they would fix the issues the “customers” have with DA II.
And what do we get? Where is the fix for the “normal” game? Not here I guess.
This is bullcrap, this is EA taking your money and you smile and throw your money at their feet.
The same thing that Joe stated for Capcom happens here and with EA in general. Really expensive DLC’s that should be in the main game, fixing issues that annoy the crap out of all gamers.
But what do they do? Nothing! And the retarded ones buy this crap, ruining Bioware, because its working as EA plans.
Biowares dead man. Sold out to EA, just like Blizzard to Activision.
the only thing that made me sad about this DLC is the warden mage armor it is UGLY >.<
Good DLC is hard to make for a story-driven game, because the story in a DLC will never have the epic length or scope of the main quest. This latest DA2 addition sounds decidedly “MEH,” and I may get Legacy provided it is bundled together with all the upcoming DLC in the inevitable “Game of the Year Edition.”
I hated Dragon Age 2. Worst $60 I spent all year. No way in hell I will pay for DLC for it. lol
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Just wondering, if a studio yanks its games off Steam, does that mean you can no longer re-download it if you already own the game, or can they still at least support that?
Also, not saying I want to do this, but if you already own EA games on Steam or some other service they’re yanking them from, can you use your serial # to re-register it on Origin like you can do with some retail games on Steam? Or do you have to buy it again?
I believe (and I may be wrong, so anyone, please correct me if so):
If you bought the game prior to being pulled from Steam, you can still play it, and presumably still re-download it.
If you want a copy of the game from Steam moved to Origin, you’ll likely have to buy a brand new copy as I don’t recall any policy for transferring across the platforms.
right about now, i fucking hate ea games on pc. most of the games seem to just run poorly, especially considering that i have a top of the line pc, battlefield bad company 2 required me to put in the serial code AGAIN recently, which is impossible, so now i wave goodbye to that game, and they are too fucking greedy to keep their games available for steam sales. FULL PRICE for those somewhat old games on origin?? NO. almost every time i order an ea game for pc, i worry about it; you’re doing it wrong, ea.
Oh man, DA2 was selling like hot cakes, way to stick it to Valve EA.
i think the main issue EA has with steams DLC pollcy is how you package it for entering into the game itsefl witch is a great way to drop games in steam and say “you can still get it on origin”
also tell me any other servies that gives a game what a streamworks game dose (you have auto uppdates, clouds, achievements, community and and a large player base to start of with) sure you can do all this within the game but steamworks dose it allmost all for the programmers
It’s postering. EA wants to pull out of Steam and host their games entirely on Origin instead, in an abysmal effort to compete with Steam.
It’s all part of their new marketing strategy, better known as “screw the customer as hard as possible”.
I laughed really hard at EA calling another company restrictive and limiting.. most definitely pot calling the kettle black. Fuck EA
Okay first things first.
@ Ostol
Every f*ing game has to be registerd somewhere. Look at EA’s games or Ubisoft or Activsion.
It doesnt matter wich game. Take a pick there ist no difference, except Steam offers something for the registration.
So generally you talk bull****. Learn to think before writing so much nonsense.
@Erunno
I never had those problems you discribe.
If you want you can install games via CD Rom. unlick “permanent updates”, just go online for registration and then “play offline” there should be no problem at all.
Honestly, all games wich require SteamWorks can be bought in a Shop (except indie games). So I totally miss you point.
Btw why dont you rage against Ubisoft, they require a permanent internet connection. So you wont be able to play any games from them. It is way worse then Steam.
Honestly Steam is the best from all possible choices for this kind of “Service”.
Valve/Steam Fanboys the bunch of you.
Well good for you that you got no problems with steam’s performanse, some of us aren’t that lucky. Your reply is likeit, would be as if i said sucks to be you for having connection problems with Ubisot’s service, I never had any connection problems with it playing Settlers 7 for countles hour withn no interuptions.
You miss my point!? Thats jute whole deal. If I’ve bought a game with steamworks in a local store (witch is at least 90% games I buy), why would I wan’t steam? Cloud storage, sovles problems only if you have to reinstall your games. I don’t want to log on my steam on anybody elses comp, i’d instantly fill up his disk drive, and if I have to manually set, all the settings for all the games to off, I find it easier take my DVD there and install it from there (not to mention faster). Not that they’d made that easy, no they made it as hard as possible.
Hmm. People always forget the second ‘s’. . .
First off, I do know what I am talking about. Over the years, I have used several digital distribution systems and I base my opinion on the experiences I have had with them. The most positive experiences I have had are with those systems that don’t do more than distribute.
Anyway, my point was that my game is being tied to a third party piece of software. Take a look at other distribution systems: Direct2Drive, Impulse, GOG — none of these require the download client to run the game or even update the game (Impulse provides automatic updates, but you could conceivably download the patch from wherever and install it manually). They exist simply as distribution systems, not (as I described Steam) as an attempt at being a gaming platform.
I disapprove of any exclusivity requirements. That is one reason why I dislike SteamWorks, which ties a game directly to Steam. Thus, even if you are able to buy the game elsewhere, you need Steam to play it. On a console this makes sense, of course; you need an XBox to play an XBox game, but the PC is so much more diverse a platform. Valve seems to want “Steam games.” I just want to be able to run games on my PC without worrying about any but one platform: the operating system.
I disagree. Steam simplifies things for me in that once I buy things on steam, they are basically guaranteed to work. I have san andreas on both cd and steam. While the cd may have compatibility issues because of how new my computer is, steam will get it running asap with no problem on my part. Plus, having games tied to steam means that any computer that has internet can have access to my games after a quick download. This isn’t to say I prefer steam to regular cds, but it does make things simpler.
Ps. Also, since steam works for both mac and pc now operating systems become less trouble as well.
You’re missing his point completely. It’s about ability to choose wether of you want to have the game on steam or not. I don’t like it eiter, that I’m forced with steam. You bux a game on 2 DvD’s and then you have effin downlad it. Sorry steam is unavaile. Sorry downoads are unavailable. Sorry your game is unavailable. Waht still here? It’s been 3 days. Ok here heve this shitty 56k downoad rate on your broadband internets lol! It will only take about 2 mored days.