Posted By TheGameheroes about 2 years, 1 month ago
Once again Sony proved that the PS3 is most hazardous system to your (credit) health on the market. WARNING all PS3 fanboys WILL be offended and throw Ballz energy drinks at screen during this video.
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Well Sony’s Playstation Network has currently been restored in most parts of the world. Users will have to perform a system update and change their PSN password either on the same system the original account has been established or via validated email. I am glad this fiasco is over and hope that other gaming companies take preventative measures (as Sony has) to combat the threat of network intrusion. Sony seems to be an honorable corporation and I hope with the network downtime, has taken time to improve the Playstation Network. I understand that not everyone that posts here are PS fans, however, those that are I am sure are relieved to hear this information; and those that are understanding, non Sony gamers, thank you for the support. I feel the gaming community needs to be more unified, to prevent issues like this in the future and promote what we value.
Well I know this has certainly contributed to fanboyism, but the more important thing to look at is that it’s a bad situation all around. Obviously the crime is going to cost Sony millions of dollars in lost sales. The fact that people within the company tried to cover it up is only going to make it worse because when you destroy mindshare with your customer in some feeble attempt to keep up a charade of “Everything’s cool” you destroy trust. When there’s no trust your customer then takes their business elsewhere. And with the reputation tarnished Sony is going to have a hell of a time trying to get new customers buying any of their products. People often forget that they do so much more than the PS3, PSP stuff. They have TV’s, Stereo equipment, MP3 players, cameras, phones, computers, a movie studio, the list goes on. Had they come out immediately, and honestly said “Hey, our online servers got hacked into. If you’ve ever bought something from us with a credit card we suggest getting in contact with your banks” I think people would have felt mad, but at the same time they would have appreciated the honesty. Some may have even empathized with them, and just bought all of their product at retail. Obviously it’s a horrible situation for all of the people who bought direct, used PSN, played any of their MMO’s like EQ or DCUO, or SWG.
Make no mistake, there are a lot of upper level, and middle management heads rolling all over the world. Don’t be surprised if we start hearing reports about people getting high profile pink slips soon. But let’s also not forget, The big focus should be whoever cracked their security, and stole the data. Because they’re not going to stop after Sony. They’ll likely target other companies, and maybe even governments. That’s stuff that affects everyone. It’s much much bigger than silly playground “My console can beat up your console” musings.
i vote they replace this smoke you video with a reading of the above comment.
Lmao @ what you said about Paypal because I’m the exact way about it. Sony lost me years ago during the PS2 days when I spent $100 for the hard drive and they were douche bags and never did anything with it, also releasing the PS2 slim the HD became an expensive paper weight. I know all of these game companies are evil corporations, but none have shown they’re true colors as much as Sony. I hope they lose sales dramatically for this or some sort of major repercussion, they really need a slap to the face cause maybe just maybe they’ll a learn their lesson.
you spent that much for a HDD? You know you can use almost any desktop HDD for a PS2 as long as you had the network adapter, right? I know it sucked that they did not do anything with it, but if you have freeMC boot you can make better use of it, as long as you have a non slim ps2 and still have a usable HDD
I own a PS3, 360 and a Wii. I prefer my 360 for no other reason than preference alone. All 3 console have there plus sides and negative sides… I just prefer the 360. (also majority of my friends are on the 360 as well)
I have owned a PS1, PS2 and a PSP… Meaning I have no kind of biased of any kind.
I still think Sony screwed the pooch here though and I stand by my comments.
I’m not gonna go into a super long drawn out comment explaining why as I’m sure EVERYONE has heard both sides of the argument in some form or another by now.
Sony is a great company and has a downright AMAZING console… The PS3 is a amazing piece of tech IMO.
That being said… I really think we should all stop trying to rub this in PlayStation fans faces… It’s incredibly childish and immature. Sony has been through quite enough this year as it is… They didn’t need this.
Now that being said… I also think that Sony fans should stop bringing up past problems that the 360 has had to counter argue this PSN debacle. I also think it’s really mean spirited and hateful to hope and wish for the 360 to get hacked just so PlayStation fans can feel better about themselves.
As far as I’m concerned gaming is one in the same in general, it’s all the gamers that separate themselves from that way of thinking and decide to pick a side and declare war on the opposition.
The way I look at it is this PSN thing is a loss for gaming and not just for Sony. The only good thing that came of this is that is has made Nintendo and Microsoft alot more aware and cautious of what a real problem these basement dwellers (hackers) can be.
Lets just hope this PSN issue wasn’t in vein and that everyone learns from this.
I still think that Sony could have went about this whole thing alot differently and could have been more careful and ready for this type of thing.
I just wish that 360 fanboys would stop using this as ammo and I wish that PS3 fanboys would stop taking low blows at issues that have been resolved for years.
The gaming community as a whole should be uniting as one at a time like this. We should ALL be looking to resolve the PSN issues, try and ensure this doesn’t happen again, and looking to destroy these hackers… not each other.
It took me a while to realize that the only reason that PS fans are attacking Xbox fans is because they feel cornered and refuse to be walked all over.
The only reason Xbox fans are attacking PS fans is because they have dealt with ridicule and console bashing since day 1 and feel like this is there chance to get back at PS fans.
I understand why everyone is reacting this way… hell I even reacted this way at first… But we are better than this. We shouldn’t sink to the level of The Game Hero’s… They are obviously bitter fanboys… We should show each other, The Game Hero’s and are favorite company, whether it be Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo, that we as gamers have each others back’s and that we all want the same thing… PSN to be back up and running so that we can all get back to gaming and to have these people caught and held responsible for there actions… AND to make sure that Nintendo and Microsoft are ready for the possible worst and prepared to ensure this never happens again. Like I said before… This is a blow to Gaming in general… not just Sony.
I can’t speak for everybody, but I never really rubbed it in anybody’s face when Xbox 360 was suffering the high hardware failure, although I would have agreed that Microsoft messed up.
Gaming today sucks period.
Gaming in the 90s used to be fun. But now games and consoles are only use for ammo in a fanboy console war. This single video just proves my point.
Instead of making a video about suggestions of making games back to it roots aka FUN. You instead make a video, start up some fanboy rage and get money from ad renvue from the views count of fanboys.
Of course Im going to get thumbs down from my little comment.
I can’t say whether gaming today is that much worse than gaming during the 16 bit era, but I can say I agree that the number one priority should be focused on ways to improve the overall quality, including fun factor, of video games today. It is unfortunate the tactics used by the Gameheroes, stirring up an already controversial issue. I feel the gaming community should be more united and when things like this happen we shouldn’t use the opportunity to bash other users with different preferences but just offer them our support and do what we can to make sure it doesn’t happen again on any console.
FYI: there was a fanboy console war going on in the 90′s, it was just not as loud as it is today since we have the internet back then to help spread the conflict to a more noticeable level.
PS: ad block + FTW
i love how everyone got the flamebait from GH
they said it themselves that they expected angry fanboys and boy they were right XD
nice trollin dudes, and to the people above me… TAKE IT EASY, IT’S JUST AN OPINION, you realize you can perfectly disagree with them without the need of acting like 10 year olds?
wow, you uh, really didn’t read many of the longer comments did you? like at all? i mean, be honest, you didn’t right?
an opinion is one thing, but what if I told you that you are a horrible person? Is an opinion, or is it just an insult? What they did was basicly told anybody off who owned a ps3 or had a psn account. To talk about how Sony failed is one thing, to bring up repeatedly XBL and how it is “better”. This video was just taking an opinion and using it bully and upset viewers so they feel like they are on the “winning ” side of this “console war”
“…you realize you can perfectly disagree with them without the need of acting like 10 year olds?”
Opinions from a 10-year old perspective (this might have a double-meaning) tend to garner reactions from the same corner, strangely enough.
I don’t own a playstation, I have no intention of doing so in the future, and I can still say with no uncertainty in my mind that these boys reap what they sow.
Platform snobbery is stupid.
It was stupid a decade ago. It’s was stupid a decade before that, and it’s still stupid, unsurprisingly. I expected better out of a “review” trying to address the very real problem of trusting a service and having your data stolen from that service.
At the very least I expected it not to be shellacked with this kind of grade-school inanity.
Wow, the fanboy rage is much higher here than I thought it would be.
People, the console wars really, REALLY doesn’t matter here. There is only one point to be made here; Sony’s compromised the credit cards of potentially almost all of their users, and that is simply UNACCEPTABLE for any business to do. Everything else is just meaningless fanboy debating.
the console wars was just a stupid marketing move by gaming companies so they would raise their sales, they couldn’t really give 2 shits about the fans still fighting this pointless war
no, I’m pretty sure its just the fanboys. Of course the companies are going to be competitive with each other, but its the fanboys who bring the stupid. Really, I think everyone is DRASTICALLY missing the point here. This isn’t about the consoles, its about a business screwing over its customers.
I can see your point. Sony could of had better security, however, the hackers weren’t playing around. These guys aren’t your average Joe or Private Snuffy, these hackers are professional and expert users. From a business sense, yes Sony dropped the ball, but on the other hand they are doing a lot more to fix the situation that I expected. I agree that the whole “my console is better than your console thing” isn’t relevant to the main issue, but the content displayed in the above video draws that to the forefront.
Seriously, these guys don’t deserve to be published anywhere other than their own YouTube accounts. Every system deserves heavy criticism, but this is just pointless and really shows a lack of intelligence and integrity.
I doubt they even know what that means.
Who are these clowns and why am I watching this. I’m in no way a sony fanboy, i’ve been wronged by sony in the past, more than once, but rhetoric like this is gonna get you guys stabbed.
Here’s something that you never thought in a million years that it would be true, but unfortunately IT IS!!!!!!!
You’re worse than Irate Gamer!!! Yes I said Irate Gamer!! Worse as a game reviewer (as proven in your sh!tty “Classic Game Review – Captain Commando” video)
and as a game journalist (as proven in this current video)
Irate Gamer is certainly not always accurate in his reviews, but at least, when he was determined to treat each console fairly, he keep his words and most importantly, he RESPECT his VIEWERS!!!
You really can learn a lot from him because you’re a freakin’ N00b compared to him!!!!!
sad but true, I think I trust him now more then I ever will trust “thegamingheros” At least he does not take any pre-existing beliefs into the review and treats everything as unbiased as possible.
i don’t think you fanboys sound as smart as you think you do. seriously, it comes across as whining and rather petty. “waaaaahhhhh, my psnz been down 12 days! put it up nao!!!!1″
uh, they were hacked, remember? as a psn user, i would rather sony take a little extra time to put the network back together and not rush it just because you guys need to play mortal kombat right now.
seriously, its coke and pepsi or ford and chevy. no one has cared about console snobbery since the mid 90s for god’s sake. it could have just as easily been microsoft and i wouldn’t doubt if something like this took place in the same way.
i’m not excusing everything sony has done both before and after this incident, and if they deserve to be called out by all means do it, but try not to waste your audience’s time with arguments that sound like they came from a 10 year old who likes raphael over michaelangelo.
*oh, and i’m calling BS on the, what was it, 1 out of 5 users contemplating switching to xbox 360 because of this. most people i know can only afford so much and wouldn’t rush to such a decision because of 12 days without service. and if they did they would be kind of an idiot who lacks a life, even by our standards.
what thread of comments have you been reading? from what i’ve read most people here are complaining about gameheroes utter disrespect for sony as a company and thier fans and as far as i’ve seen most of those ‘complainers’ havn’t been sony ‘fanboys’ your comment perplexs me greatly, did you TL;DR?
I would have to agree with you calling out BS on switching to XBL and the 360. Everybody I know who owns a PS3 have no plans on getting an Xbox…heck if i wanted one I would have bought one before PSN went down.
i almost wish a hacker would take down blistered thumbs and then make kind of the same video about how small the schlong of tom is and how it must hurt to look like that ferret face guy from the xbox 360 heroes
since the staff of blistered thumbs didnt take that video down i assume they all agree that they dont need ps3 users as their fans
way to go and tell so many fans to get lost
Guess I should have expected all the thumbs down. People are hitting the thumbs down button so many times on this subject that they’re getting… blistered thumbs!
All I know is that I have lost a lot of faith in Sony and their products over the past year. Will I purchase anymore DLC for my PS3? Probally not. Will I purchase a PS4 when it is released, honestly at this point my answer has to be no.
I may prefer Sony Playstation 3 to Xbox, but I would like to clarify that I have nothing against Xbox, Live, or any of its users. To be honest, if they offered more for me (yes me and my wants and needs) I would most likely own both systems. I find value in Sony, Playstation, and the Playstation Network because it better suits my gaming preferences and offers more of what I want out of this generation of consoles. I am not pleased about this hack and hope that whoever is responsible for the intrusion is brought to justice. I will be waiting for the PSN be brought back to full operational function, with some hopeful updates and improvements. This is deeper than an attack on Sony, this is an attack on gamers. I feel we should be united in outrage about the situation because who knows what system maybe hacked into next. We are a community and I feel that we should act like one. All this Sony deserves it and blah blah blah is an opinion, but the real victims here are the Playstation users. While some people will not agree with my common thoughts, I stand by Sony and hope they continue to offer state of the art consoles and games in the future. If anything I just hope these intrusions stop at Sony and do not directly effect the Xbox 360 or Nintendo Wii.
Couldn’t have said it better myself, someone here has a gift for you: http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t333/kung_lao26/Leonsdeserecookie.jpg
I can’t believe one person thumbsed you down. What a fucking demo graphic you’ve attracted Game Villians! This guy has a reasonable, logical, and politically correct opinion that isn’t being stuff down our throats and you irrational fanboys thumbs it down just because he still prefers the PS3? I bet you guys could you would put every sony fan in a concentration camp.
calm down friend, it doesn’t matter, there are always gonna be trolls and TL;DRtards on the internet, just ignore them
And here I was thinking Platform Snobbery went out with the bit wars…
Man don’t talk trash about the PlayStation Network it may have been down nearly 4 weeks but those who are patient and loyal to PSN will get a reward has X-Box ever gotten a reward for down answer that!
Actually yes. sorry to burst your bubble, but microsoft did release a free game on the xbox live arcade as a reward to all xbox live users. this was about 1-2 years ago when xbl went down due to unknown entry into the server for about 1 week. stop kissing sonys ass and grow up.
If memory serves me right when XBL went down in 2008 Gold members were offered a free downloadable game as compensation.
that’s a piece of crap i did the other day:
Well I’m going to get back to my previous statement, when someone says that a company that produces my favorite console or what have you does something monumentally stupid, I’m not going to defend their stupidity, I’ll just shrug whenever someone brings it up, and once everyone but the warring fantards have stopped talking about I’ll move on with my life, no harm no foul. If you want to be offended whenever someone says anything bad about the company that makes your favorite console go right on ahead, I’m not going to say you’re wrong (Just that I don’t take it as personally as you do). Also if you’ve seen ANY of the previous episodes of Smoke You, they leave tact and careful wording at the door, a few months down the road should Microsoft make a dumb mistake they will get the same treatment. Maybe I’m just thick-skinned when it comes to trolling or what not, but I’m not going to spend my admittedly large amount of free time defending a company when they make stupid mistakes, regardless of whether or not they make my favorite anything.
I hate the PSN. But don’t get me wrong, I hate XBL too. I will tell you what I think is strange is so many of Sony’s fanboys attacking Microsoft and yet defending Playstation even though every PS3 owner I have talked to has been pissed off by the outage. I’m not certain, but has XBL ever been out for almost 3 weeks before?
(in responce to drmccoy)
so, like a gaming PC? (alternate joke: you mean nintendo?)
in all honesty i never actualy said ps3 was better and hardly mentioned xbox, i guess that kinda got lost in the translation, regardless i was actualy thinking how great it would be if sony started developing hardware for nintendo again, i mean sony obviousely needs a rep boost and nintendo really doesn’t know how to handle current gen consoles (the online on nintendo is pretty bad) i mean, how awesome would it be if sony helped bolster project cafe for better online and meatier graphics? i think that’d be cool in my opinion
you’ve got alot of good opinions and idea’s in you doc, i just think you need to say them a little nicer, can’t catch bee’s with vinerger after all right?
Why not a “Gaming PC”? Hell, the term “PC” is actually pretty stupid and meaningless.
What makes a “PC”? The Intel architecture? Macs nowadays have x86s in them. And the Xbox is basically a Windows PC. The PS3′s hardware is different, yes.
The Windows operating system? Don’t get me started there…
And actually, I for one would like to get away from the awfully crowded x86 architecture, burdened with 1000 levels of backwards compatibility nobody needs anymore.
I’d also like to get away from all the platform-dependant lock-ins, like DirectX, in favour of more portable things, but I’m getting more and more off-topic here.
And to be frank, I don’t care about “meatier graphics”. Quite the contrary, I think the push for ever more “realistic”, ever more complex and expensive graphics is actually one of the big evils in the gaming industry nowadays. Everything, a proper story, proper gameplay, proper development, gets pushed aside for the graphics.
What comes out is a neat looking shell that’s indistinguishable from all the other shells, with bugs up to the arse, lacking any story whatsoever, with stupid quick-time events instead of actual gameplay.
Nintendo’s problem is not the lack of graphics, but their constant search for gimmicks, and shoddy architecture (seriously, the hardware and firmware side of the Wii is atrocious, from what I’ve read).
On the topic of “nice”. Nope, sorry, I don’t do “nice”.
I hate those deceiving little packages of “nice” people hand out. Instead of stating plain and simple what’s wrong, you’ll only get 1000 levels of indirections, until you can’t tell what’s what anymore.
I am of course frequently wrong too (and I appreciate people telling me so plainly). And I have a tendency to be too impulsive and angry.
pc is a personal computer, in actualy fact a computer that is used for personal means, so it can be a mac a windows or a linux or even homebrew if you’d wish
yes meatier graphics don’t make better games, but i’d still like to see what nintendo could do to push ‘cartoony’ graphics to meatier extremes
but wouldn’t you still agree the playstation model would make nintendo games more grounded in actualy gaming then gimmicks and shody firmware?
Wow, they actually bowed? That shows a lot of class. Despite this video I am still going to keep my playstaion 3 I like their exlusive games and exept for them getting hacked I never had had any trouble with their machine or their online service. I have owned a lot of micro soft programs and machines and allthough they have not gotten hacked it still was some problems from time to time. Hopefully Sony get this fixed.
So now everyone who still has PS3 is a fanboy huh ? Ignorance is a bliss that’s all I will say.
You shouldn’t of said that your friend in the white house was a women. That can narrow it down too much……..unless you were trying to outsmart us and its really a man. But then you would figure we would figure that you were trying to outsmart us so it really is a women. But then maybe you know we would figure on your misdirection of the direction of the friends gender so now I must unwaveringly believe that your friend in the white house is a man. But your not that convoluted in your conversation so I can safely say in the ultimate misdirection that your friend doesn’t work in the white house and that entire statement was a lie. Which means that your source of intel. is a person who’s identity can not be disclosed. Therefore they must be a time traveling supercop from the future. This time traveler must also be a women because do to plot contrivance rules you need a love interest that is connected to the main story plot somehow……crap now Im getting reality and Sci-Fi mixed up- again. What were we talking about?
I thought this show was about expressing anger when gamers are cheated, but instead Andy showed undisguised delight that Microsoft’s services are getting a boost. I don’t own a Playstation 3 myself, but I can sympathize with Playstation owners who feel, rightfully, that all the corruption and incompetence involved is at their expense.
If I was more cynical, I could accuse you guys of deliberately inflaming the situation to get more views and ad revenue. The catch phrase of yellow journalism is, after all, “If you’re not pissing somebody off you’re not doing your job right.” I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt though, because this really is a catastrophe for Sony and there is plenty of blame to go around.
I do however suggest clarifying that you are not attacking Playstation gamers or gloating over their credit card and financial security being compromised, as the situation is more serious than a bad port of a game or other such fanboy arguments. People could potentially lose a lot of money here, and may even face identity theft, so it is the responsibility of all gaming journalists to help with whatever information they can, rather than present knee jerk reactions like this one.
Be sure to watch the Gameheroes now on Fox News lol
Scutigera, this isn’t even Yellow Journalism. A great example of that is the Ars Technica article about their readers equating their credit card fraud issues with the Sony event less than 48 hours after the update that there was no evidence any credit card data was taken. (Again, encrypted credit card data that did not have the security code attached, so not that useful.) Turns out that none of those unverified cases had anything to do with Sony. Which is still the case.
This is, quite literally, putting down a specific portion of their readers. It’s exaggeration and FUD, when none needs to happen. I would expect this type of misinformation from a forum post. 77 million accounts had personal data stolen. That sucks, a lot. Gamers can’t play their games. That sucks, too. I understand that when Microsoft had issues during it’s console launch and during Christmas holidays of ’07 (I think) some Sony fans may have boasted and bragged, but that’s not the place of journalists.
Million dollar protection plan. Free PSN+. Free downloadable games. I’m pissed I had to change my passwords and keep a closer eye on my checking account, but in the grand scheme of things it’s fixable. The compensation may not be enough to some, but I just want to play my damn games.
If Blistered Thumbs wants to be a gaming humor/troll bait site, so be it. My understanding was that they were going for something different. Game heroes are not following in the path that their peers are trying to take.
Seriously, guys, look up my email. I’ll proofread and edit your content for you, just so you can make sure you’re getting right the first time. Instead of releasing a video you know is hyperbole and not stamping a star rating on it.
you make a point there i keep on meaning to alaborate, i mean people on blistard thumbs like fraser and his gang and angry joe all promote gaming as a whole no matter what you play and encourage us to band together, and then a video like this is released as nothing more as fans service to xbox fans? seems a bit like a mixed message
Its times like these when I can gloat about the fact I never use credit or debit cards on any internet devices. this is the reason why I always go to the store to buy minutes. you gloating xbox fan boys can actually stop cause truth is it could happen to you to but not to me lol not to mechen didn’t xbox get hacked to a lesser extent at least once. I dont know but i know it can happen to any system or any device just shows you shoulden’t put that stuff on the net. I mean its hard enough to keep up with stuff like a credit card number when you buy somthing at the store. so why would you go online where its easier to have a credit card stolen. convenience yea lets see how convenient it is when your money is gone there is no such thing as fail safe. also just want to point out i own all systems so im not being an xbox hater when i say it can happen there to.
i think i dissagree with you feeling superior about buying time through cards, credit cards are just a option and a risk just like carrying cash around on you is, the thing is though, the amount of outrage by credit card users is a bit…stupid, i mean, with a credit card you should KNOW the risks of giving out it’s details, you know what the first thing i did when i heard about psn? i went to the bank on my half hour lunch break and canceled my card, am i whining about that? maybe i’m a little ticked off at the delayed responce from sony yea, and maybe i did ask the hackers to refund me my ten bucks for the new card in jest, but really for the most part i think i have accepted that i took a risk giving out my credit card details and am grateful i was able to cancel said card before anything suss happened, i can at least rest easy now knowing i’m completely safe with my money, or a little more safe anyway, for a little while.
(Response to Mr_Implausible:)
Come on, you didn’t seriously just appropriate LGBT right, which is about actual oppressed minorities, for the whining of some privileged and pampered little brats…
well, i did say “i hate to” but you got to admit there are the simerlarities there, the diffrence between my comments and your comments are basicly that you get to clal mine ‘whining’ and i can’t call yours anything, really i don’t know why you are whining about us whining, have we offended YOU? i mean if we have we’re sorry, really.
yea it was probly silly to compare gay rights to video game rights, but hey, at least i didn’t compare it to the nazi’s or some generic thing like that right?
Sure there are similarities, if you ignore that we’re talking about *a fucking gaming console*. “You insulted me, take down that vidoe this instant!!!” /is/ whining when you consider we’re talking about *a fucking gaming console*. This “insult” is about some people thing *a fucking gaming console* is better than some other *fucking gaming console*. It’s ridiculous.
Seriously, it’s highly ironic that I, as a geek and someone who likes to indulge into classical debates about whether vi or emacs is the better editor, or more recently git vs. hg, am actually thinking “get a fucking life, you dweebs”. Because even I wouldn’t dream of saying “you insulted me, take it down”, when we’re talking about stuff that, in the end, irellevant.
Seriously, people. This here is almost as bad as the whole ffmpeg/libav thing a while back. You’re idiots, every single one of you.
And yes, it’s at least not “Nazi” you called. That one is one of my personal pet peeves, seeing that I’m German, and well aware of my ugly history.
thankyou, that was alot better, not the best i can only assume, but it’s more aprieciated, no i don’t agree with you in the least, and no i can’t retort you, if it does make you feel better you ‘won’ then, personaly if you want to know the truth as to why this particuler “lifeless moron who’s arguing about ‘fucking video games’ (and no not just the console variaty)” it’s becuase i happen to enjoy interlectual debate, sure this is probly one of the worst things to debate about, but weather you think less of me for it or not video games are my ‘thing’ they are what i’m passionate about, i’m sure you can at least understand that right? in other words, i’m just trying to get a point across and have fun doing it, fun might be the wrong word but feh…also i reported my comment a few comments back, i really do think it was the wrong thing to say
No, you misunderstand me. I don’t think being passionate about video games is a bad thing. Being passionate about irrelevant details is a bad thing.
You all should, instead of arguing which variety is the best, join forces and better the quality of the game industry for everyone.
sir, i’d like to further elaborate, that i can tell you arn’t just some random troll, i can tell you have inteligence, why not show it more by explaining why YOU think sony sucks or rather how they screwed up with psn, and then talk about how we shouldn’t be offended by what the GH said, if i can dish out critique and i can take it, i just dislike when the critique boils down to “stop whining”
Okay, let me elaborate:
Sony sucks because
1) They have no fucking business sense. Historically, the PlayStation just exists because there were some people at the right time with the right idea and enough money. Since those days, all they do is run around, trying to catch up to the latest idiotic gizmo people call “innovation these days
2) They’re communication (or lack threrefore) during the PSN thing was horrible.
3) A big reason the PSN thing had such a big impact is because of their decision to require online activation for single-player games
4) Sony’s DRM ideas are just plain bad in general
5) Dropping backwards compatibility and Linux on the PS3? Bad.
Likewise, Microsoft sucks because
1) They too were mostly the product of luck and badgering, when they sold IBM their inferior DR-DOS clone
2) Their constant consumer-unfriendly and competition-circumventing behaviour is infamous
3) They don’t even know what innovation smells like
4) The whole multiplayer culture on the Xbox is ridiculously offensive to anyone with more than 5 braincells
And the main reason I’m actually face-palming about the whining here: You could actually band together and try to better the position of everyone involved, instead of indulging in petty bickering and infighting. It’s so very sad.
i’d like to think the main point i’ve been trying to get across is that we’re all gamers, not from a single platform but from all platforms, what does this contribute to this great ‘uprising of nerd rage’ you speak of? fuck all, but hey, if what i’m trying to say gets through to at least one person then i’ve at least done something, and i’m meeting some really nice people, i’d like to think you’re a nice person too, you just seem a bit…hostile is all, sorry to say, look you like old adventure games right? i like adventure games too, maybe if theres a PM system or something on this sight you could drop me a line with a few sugestions, i don’t think you’re a ‘enemy’ doc, i’m just trying to talk my side of a story, i guess it’s kinda irelivant to me weather you completely dissagree or not, i guess i just don’t like the tone of your typing
Yeah, I have a tendency to become angry and hostile when I see (what I perceive as) stupidity.
I guess my main point can be summed up as: Stop your infighting about whether the PS3 or the Xbox 360 is the “better” system, whether Sony or Microsoft are better, because they’re both shit.
Instead, stand together and “fight” for a better system, for a better way: a more open and flexible way; a less consumer-hostile way; a system that doesn’t churn out the latest iteration of mindless, buggy crap in shorter and shorter cycles, but instead gives you games with a real story that engage, with real impact.
1. Saying you have multiple consoles doesn’t mean you don’t have a bias. There’s no need to phrase your opinion within some sort of “I promise I love everything” box.
2. Bloomberg had an article detailing what Visa, Mastercard, and American Express response was to this mess. Nothing has been used yet in regards to the PSN theft.
3. Did you read the letter to Congress? Because it explains how the whole event occurred. PS, they had firewalls. Read the report.
4. Per the rules of Visa and American Express, NOBODY is allowed to store the 3 digit code on the back of a credit card any where, even if it’s encrypted. In addition, any credit card info taken from PSN, which there wasn’t any evidence of occurring (I believe that’s still the case), was encrypted. Your passwords were hashed.
5. The only info that was 100% for sure taken was first and last names, address, e-mails, and (I think) phone numbers. While this is unacceptable, this is all information that is freely available on Google or Facebook.
Look, I get it, you want page hits. However, you’re several weeks late discussing this, the content is not factual, and is mostly hyperbole. This is a shitty situation for a lot of people, let’s not exaggerate the problem. Especially considering, you’re baiting and insulting your fans on a small website. Not a smart idea.
I’m sorry but you shouldn’t be allowed to be on a gaming website if your a fan boy.
This entire fiasco could have been avoided if they had some sort of firewall between the PS3 proper and their servers, but lo and behold nope. It’s their own damn fault for not adding more internal security. I own a PS3 and I do like Sony but at the same time I don’t see what they said being rude to PS3 players, sorry but I honestly do not see any kind of exaggerated “If you play on PSN you are worse than hitler” stuff, they just seem to be attacking the company (Which deserves it for being so stupid as to not have any internal defenses)
gonna repeat this.
when you put your hard earned money into buying something then someone comes along and tells you how bad the company that made it has screwed up, it doesn’t matter how right they are, your first instinct to to be insulted.
no i do not take sony’s side, no i do not take the playstation users side, no i do not take the side of the people confused as to why the playstation users are mad, i’m simply here to say: maybe we should all stop name flinging and just chat intelectualy, i mean it couldn’t hurt for those who don’t ‘see the insult’ to take a little time and say “we don’t blame you playstation users, you couldn’t of known this’d happen and hey it really is the hackers fault above everything, but sony still has some blame to share too” like people have said, we’re all gamers here, i think we can all understand the annoyances of loosing game data or scratching a game disk or having our faverite company liquidated or even bought up, i think that can extend to our brothers in arms having thier online service and maybe even identity taken from them, can’t we?
chatting intelctually would be a good idea, but i dont think it is possible with what the game heroes want
watch the video again expecially the point in the beginning where they say that not only “psn sucks”, but playstation in general
so it is very obvious that this video isnt about psn and the incident at all, it is just an excuse for them to go all they way out showing what a bunch of jerks they really are by supporting the hackers morally and for once admitting that they love the console war thing and seeing ps3 users as there enemies instead of fellow gamers like everyone else
“psn sucks” would be an opinion, but they said “playstation sucks”, and that is nohing less than an insult, and that was pretty much what they intended
i am still in shock that people whose videos i watched and had good fun are showing there true faces once and for all, and turn out to be some kind of losers that cant have fun with their own consoles unless others suffer
that video isnt only an insult to everyone who just wants to play online with the ps3, its an insult to blistered thumbs
take this idiotic video down
Ah, stop getting your nappies in a bunch.
“Ooooh, they insulted me! Wha, wha! Take it down, or I’ll cry some more to my mommie!”
I’ll give it to you that they should rather focus on the big picture, how the state of all consoles and the gaming industrie in general is completely fucked up, but your embarrasing whining here is just ludicrous.
i hate to compare this to gay rights, but that’s almost the same as saying “gays should stop whining that they can’t get married”
it’s uh, kinda the comment section, is there something wrong with expressing ourselves? have i missed something
There were server fire walls in place, but not the best. The main weakness was one server sits outside the firewall which was a web app one I believe. The crackers(malicious hackers, monetary gain etc..) Then used this vulnerability to bypass the firewall to get into all the other servers. Yes it was a very big flaw in the internal security. You guys want real facts on whats been going on, look at the PS blog the press releases. CC were encrypted and passwords were salt hashed. So yes a big screw up, but not as bad as we all thought when we all first heard about it. As LK said, PR did a horrible job on getting information out. That’s pretty much all I can dock Sony on, besides the big flaws they didn’t notice. To listen to a far more balanced discussion on this, I would suggest you listen to Nash, LK and Skitch in the last 2 Tuesday Tech Talks, and This Week in Games up to 3 weeks back. Done.
Look I don’t know what kind of angle you guys are trying to pull, but it is not working. Most of the comments have been negative, and maybe I guess a third of those negative comments are Playstation owners who may truly get all butt hurt. It’s really late for me so don’t quote me on that.
Any way the bow gesture is a Japanese formal way of saying your sorry, greeting someone or leaving someones presence. Some credit cards have been stolen, along with some cases of identity theft. Sony however has agreed to insure up to 1 million dollars in identity theft damages, which is way better than what I expected them to be. And no security codes were not kept. That was only a rumor. Yes there internal infrastructure as a network was horrible, but Sony has 3 security firms working to make it a hell of a lot better. Saying just Playstation sucks is a bit bias. You can still play great games without using the PSN. Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Killzone, God of War, the steam portal 2 co-op, the Arkham Asylum joker free dlc. I know its just free dlc, but from what I hear, his levels are a lot more fun than the Scarecrow levels. Then you have the vast library of PS1 games and now PS2 games being set up in HDish as well as added trophies. The PS3 has lots of stuff to offer and different services than Xbox. However, I will say currently XBL is the better online service.
With that said I have a request. Either take down this video altogether, make a new one with more facts this time, or make a video apology citing how alienating this video is to Playstation owners, how damaging it is to your reputation, and BT as a whole. Even a fellow affiliate BT producer cites how despicable this is. I think when one of your internet reviewer co-workers says thats not a good idea(Yes I do realize internet reviews use satire and sarcasm, this was more fan boy bait and ratings boost), but I think maybe you should listen to them.
great minds post alike, i bow my hat to you sir, you are truly a master of your craft *tips hat*
Why thank you sir. I never get a compliment out of what I say, so that was nice. Not that I’m vying for positive responses seeing as I don’t post much. It is nice.
i’m gonna say guys, um, the whole ‘playstation sucks’ thing, it’s kinda narrow minded of you, sorry to say, i mean, if you maybe touched on the whole fact that the hackers are the people who ultimately did the wrong thing, almost three times too ((apparently sony avoided the third hacking by turning off thier servers)) just, you know, i know smoke you is about blowing off steam about stuff that annoys you, but yea, andy, if you do not own a ps3 you can’t really ‘smoke’ them. i had to cancel a credit card becuase of this and even i’m forgiving enough to just let it go, others? well they have thier own opinions they are entitled to, but if you havn’t got a psn you really can’t have a real opinion on this.
also on the question of what would i want for compensation: nothing, sony hasn’t really done anything wrong to me, the hackers are who have done something wrong to me, so if the hackers are reading this, i’d like ten bucks for the replacement of my credit card kthnxbye
i’d like to stress though, i don’t mind you guys, i just dissagree with your smoking of sony and playstation.
Wow… some people are way too much overreacting in this comment box…
SONY =/= SONY PLAYERS
If you had something called a “brain” you would know it… >.<
why is that bullshit video still online? never thought such a nazi crap would show up on a network site like this
As a programmer and Linux guy, I’ll say this: Both the PS3 (and PS1, PS2, PSP) and the Xbox (360 or not) are stupid pieces of crap that need to die.
Sony with their weird business sense and insulting rootkit DRM deserves no money from anyone;
and don’t even get me started on Microsoft.
Since I’m not much of a gamer, apart from old adventure games (and Telltale’s output), RPGs and the occasional puzzle game, I’m well aware I’m not their target audience, though.
For those that want source material, check out escapistmagazine.com for similar articles. It’s the same thing!
I also just started watching the video and HOLY SHIT! This is one of the worst “news” broadcasts i’ve ever seen. The guy next to handsom Tom should have never gotten into game journalism. He should be in a camp for severe low functioning autism. These people are more like the game villians for me.
This is the most pathetic display of M$ Fanboys ive ever seen. Don’t act like XBL can’t be hack, because it can. Anything can be hacked, and every one of you xbot fanboys are probably supporting the hackers just because “xbox ftw”. Well, RROD was a bullshit thing for microsoft, and then they kept lying about the percentage, they said is was 24 percent, then 27, WELL IT WAS 44.4 PERCENT! And if it RROD’d after the warrenty you had to buy a new one. Sony took the psn off for safety reasons, and they didn’t know how to let everyone know without causing mass panic. You couldn’t have just made a statement “oh yea, everyone the psn was hacked, BYE!” They wanted to at least let us know that they already were making progress, and there has been no confirmed cases of theft of credit informatiom from current sources. All these lawsuites are just thieves trying to get a quick buck.
When on Earth did anybody confirm that they had you credit card security card info stored? Like you just said that’s highly illegal. Just because they ask for it doesn’t mean they store it!
I don’t mind people hating on Sony, but at least get your facts straight, they just ask for you credit card security number because they do a micro transaction once you register to confirm it’s a real credit card, but nobody said nothing about storing it.
I would to love to know, are there any SONY fanboys left in the world after this disaster? I own all three consoles (trinity gamers FTW!) and honestly barely touched my Ps3 for any online gaming before this nightmare but now I’ll be sure to NEVER go online with it. I bought one Ps1 game from the PSN a while ago and now my credit card info may be in danger?! Pssh, $50/year is more than worth it when compared to the free, BS online service that SONY offers. Hate to say it but MS wins the online gaming service war, by a landslide.
i own many games across many platforms and i’d just like to say, PSN does not equal Playstation 3
PSN is down whoopdifreaking doo, i can still play my games, the only way it affects me is that i can’t download dlc and new downloadable titles (i rarely RARELY game online on console) and i’m not buying new games right now
do not assume everyone hates sony becuase a majority of people are angry, us minority of game lovers tend to not care about discrepency’s like this, i mean, we care and hope sony gets better, but we’re fine with just making sure our stuff is secure and getting on with our lives.
HOW DARE YOU HAVE AN OPINION THAT DIFFERS FROM MY OWN!!! I DEMAND YOU BLOW SMOKE UP MY ASS!!!
XD You have some crazy ass fans who take this way too serious. It seemed like a normal video to me.
it seemed like a normal video to me too, but the subject they have is a pretty iffy and complicated one, plus one that’s still pretty fresh, i mean, most sony fans are really red faced right now as you can imagine, and saying “lol sony has horrible security” is the same as going up to thier faces, blowing cigar smoke in them and saying “my golly goshness sir, you seem to be fully RETARDED, would you like a biscuit?” or at least that’s why i personaly think people are up in arms about it
why take these videos so serious? If I had a PS3 i’d be very pissed off, but no reason to let off on internet reviewers, what a waste of anger.
Take it on Sony, they DID screwed the pooch, sorry. Go blast off on their forums, if they happen to read then it wont be such a waste.
also… fanboy must be the most ridiculous insult
getting very tired of it
Once again GH shows they true colors with pure fanboyism. It obious that you guys are on Microsoft’s side in this “console war” instead of being against whole thing or even trying to make real reporting. Lets face it, we are all gamers no matter what game system we use and that brings us together.
I dont own a PS3 and even Im amazed at the blanket “Playstation sucks” statement in this video. Those are fighting words if you cant tell by the comments. Its also a wonderfully ignorant way to alienate your PS3 fanbase. Which again, if you cant tell by the comments, is something you guys managed to successfully do.
However, I dont blame you for blasting Sony like this because they do deserve it. I just think you guys should have stuck to the facts. The most important fact being that Sony didnt bother to encrypt the personal data of the PSN account AND stored that unencrypted data on a server with outdated security with no firewall. Ill repeat that again……..THEIR SERVER HAD NO FIREWALL. Its a miracle that PSN hadnt been taken down before now.
I know the PS3 fans like to bring up the shortcuts MS made with the 360. Heres the thing, the shortcuts MS took with the 360 pales in comparison to the shortcut Sony took with PSN. Now I know all the PS3 fans are gonna thumbs down me, and thats fine, but it wont change the FACTS of this case. The fact is, Sony is just as greedy as MS, the only difference is MS isnt trying to cover up how greedy they are.
Um, this is what had everyone up in arms? What did they say that was so unreasonable?
The PS3 is my console of choice right now and I’m not happy about this, to put it mildly. My love of the Playstation brand can’t blind me toward Sony’s incompetence. It’s one thing to get hacked but there’s no good reason this much information got leaked all at once, and the fact that it’s been down so long tells me that there were major problems with the network that should have been addressed a long time ago.
And the damage has been done. It’ll be very hard to trust Sony with my card information and that means new purchases from the PSN store aren’t going to be made on my behalf. That’s me looking out for my own interests, it’s not animosity toward Sony. I don’t understand why people are so dead-set on defending corporations when they do the bare minimum to help us just so they can cover their ass. I don’t want Sony taken out but I hope they learn from this just like I hope they learn from their other missteps.
This is why I’m glad to own a 360. Seriously? What’s with all this “it ruins discs”, “red ring of death”, “overheating” you Sony fanboys are whining about with the 360? Mine has never done that. Here’s an idea for any console user, turn off your console once in awhile or buy an external fan. I might be crazy here, but I think that will help with the overheating problem. The fanboys desperately need to unbunch their panties over this video. It’s their opinion, as far as I’m concerned they’re telling it like it is. Sony sucks. Period. Yeah, Xbox isn’t a perfect console but it’s had hell of a lot less problems than Sony has in the past few years. I’m sure I’ll get major thumbs down for this comment and I’m sure fanboys will try to point out how Xbox pales in comparison to Sony, but I don’t care. After this comment I’m not coming back here to check and see if anyone responds to this and I’m not going to waste my time arguing with children.
GH, don’t listen to the Sony fanboys. They’re just mad because someone actually called out the company on what a shit job they did “protecting” their clients and how they’re doing nothing to compensate for it.
(And yes, I realize I’m saying “fanboy” a lot because that’s what you guys are acting like. Have fun dealing with no PSN for the rest of the month! xD)
Bowing men can only be forgiven in bondage gear by a woman with a whip.
Gh? WTF!? I watch plenty of your videos, and find them quite insightful and entertaining. Though I have never actually commented on anything that you have posted. In fact I never even had an account on Blistered thumbs, until I saw this vid of yours, Yes I made an account just so that I can comment on this.
What a real douche thing to do? Did you even think this through? It seems like you made this episode just for the ratings. Its obvious that The Xbox has a huge laundry list of problems, including the release SEVERAL different versions of the 360 just to solve issues, that should have NEVER allowed it to even hit the market. Destroying Discs, overheating, Red Rings of Death???? Not to mention out right ripping off the PS3s capabilities and hardware, 3 releases later and now you have Blue-Tooth? 3 releases later now its wifi compatible? And now that the Ps3 has a problem, Hey lets Bash The f*** out sony. Obviously you are, and have been Xbox fans from the get go.
You didnt even give any subtly in bashing it either, you just straight out said, “The PlayStation sucks”. Then you have at this point no right NO right to talk of any sony products including its exclusive games. Bet you didnt say it sucked when you played God of War. Bet you didnt say it sucked when you played Mgs4. You guys are full of yourselves, go play your xbox and leave your biased insights at the start menu.
Listen Tom. I know you’re still mentally stuck in mid 2007, since thats when you still had your own site and all and prefer thinking back on then to now, but the rest of us have kinda up to date with things in gaming. I dunno, you miht wanna try it.
its ok to do a video about that incident, but you guys are having too much fun with it and how you repeat all the time that playstation sucks has nothing to do with journalism
i never saw a video about xbox 360 when there where fialure rates around 30-40 %
so you are not even not neutral, but total fanboys that behave like jerks
goodbeye xbox 360 heroes
You guys do know they are offering 12 MONTHS of free credit protection to anyone that is on the PSN Network, with up to $1 MILLION to anyone on the PSN Network right? I HIGHLY doubt Xbox would offer anything like that!
I’m just going to leave this here.
I do indeed hope you guys see it. *BTW* be very careful what links you click on on that site. There are things you cannot unsee.
If you wanted to be a real troll, you would have linked to the “Offended” page. Lol.
Dear Game Heroes,
You guys, especially Andy, are
Please change your name to “The XBOX Heroes” permanently, then you can talk trash about Sony and their playstations as much as you want, and no one will complain!!
Do you guys treat each console and their games fairly or do you despise one of them and would love to see them go out of business? Please pick one side and stick with it!! Stop switching all the time because you’re only confusing your audience!! Is that too much to ask?
Lots of Playstation owners have been following “The Game Heroes” since day 1 and the “Smoke you – Sony” video is how you showed your pathetic appreciation to your Playstation audience. Yes, the video was not only a direct attack to Sony but to Playstation owners as well, you knew it would offend us and you still went ahead and do it!! And you expect to get away that easily? **** no!! You have the rights to criticize Sony’s actions, but this video was more than that. It’s main intention was to make Xbox owners feel good and Playstation owners, bad. Yes, you mentioned “Microsoft” and “Xbox” countless times in the video when you could have simply avoided it and just focus on Sony and Playstations without sounding fanboyism at all!! Hey, you didn’t mention “Nintendo” and “Wii” at all, so you could have done the same with “Microsoft” and “Xbox”
How can you redeem yourselves? Well, you can start by issuing an official apology to Playstation owners, and especially that stupid mocking on the bow done by the Japanese
But if you wanna keep mocking Sony and treat Microsoft like a God, then upload it on Youtube, not here!! Bunch of stupid retards!!
Lol Why u mad tho?
I agree 110%. Ether be fair and unbias, or change you name to “The XBOX Heroes” and GTFO. PSN was for the most part FREE. Sony even let steam-works onto the system for portal CO-OP between PC and PS3 and a free copy for PC (which I activated on day one). Shame you will have to buy a second copy because your lord and masters Microsoft would not allow steam connection to XBL. Although, I wonder how you would react if the same thing happened to XBL: My bet you would say NOTHING! You have shown today you are nothing more then Xbots. I think we deserve and apology for your slander bias and insulting attitude you displayed.
PS: I will stop watching any video you release or are in if you ever treat any ps3 viewer like this again.
You fanboy tears taste like sweet tea.
I am not crying or shedding any tears. I own a PS3 and have a PSN account. I am upset this has happened, but even more so upset about how these people treat this situation and their views by rubbing in how this has not happened to Xbox, also calming how more people are buying 260′s and XBl accounts after only a few weeks. They hate Sony and the PS3 and just blasted away at them, but also were doing the same to the people who own said system.
What was this crap?
This whole “Blame the attacker not the victim” is bullshit too… Sony was running an outdated version of Apache on an even more outdated version of Red Hat… That seems like Sony’s problem.
They know damn well there is always gonna be people trying to take them down/hackers… they should have been ready for this… They let a few hackers completely cripple them.
Maybe if they had spent more time and money on security instead of whoring out Kevin Butler and having Marcus constantly telling to “step my game up” they could have been ready for this and maybe just MAYBE could have fought it off or at best had PSN up and running already.
Also… Gameheros… stop posting this fan boy shit… making us 360 owners/fans look bad. You just come off as ignorant and make all the Sony fanboys flame even harder. This was fucking stupid and pointless… you must not like positive feedback I take it.
thats a lie, sonys apache was up do date to the newest version
Well since its a pretty widely known fact that there security systems where INCREDIBLY outdated and every website that discusses gaming/tech has talked about that, shown facts and linked sites to back it up, it’s pretty obvious you really don’t know what your talking about and just blindly defending Sony. Where are YOUR facts to back up your statement?
What about the lack of a firewall? Is that a “lie” too?
If your gonna call someone a fucking liar have some proof, cause thems fightin words were I come from.
No proof or facts of any kind… I’m just a “liar”… (facepalm) fucking moron.
The thing that I find Ironic about this whole situation is the amount of heat the Xbox took because it had a few problems at launch with the Red Ring and the the amount of heat the Xbox STILL takes to this day because of the fact that you have to pay for XBL.
As soon as Xbox fans have something to rub in Sony fanboy faces “It’s not there fault” “you are aware that XBL went down for almost 2 weeks” “RROD”… Let Xbox fanboys have there 15 minutes… it’s not like Sony isn’t just gonna pick themselves up from this and move on once it’s over.
Xbox fanboys understand that there console is just a console and can break and have problems and Sony fanboys treat the PlayStation like it’s a god and can do no wrong, hence why none of this is Sony’s fault in there eyes. Sony reminds me alot of the Oakland Raiders and LA Dodgers… don’t hate the team but fucken hate the fans which in turn makes me hate the team. Grow up people… Sony will pick themselves up from all of this and make a perfect recovery… it’s Sony for god’s sake… Let the 360 fanboys have there fun while they can. damn. Bunch of arrogant assholes.
umm ok some bullet points
1. red ring was completly microsofts fault, the psn hack was the HACKERS fault, yes you can argue “omg out of date defence” all you want, but at the end of the day it’s the hackers malicuise intent that caused and made the hacking happen.
2. stop using the term ‘fanboy’ if you intend it as a insult, we all play games, just cause some people can’t afford more then 1 console doesn’t make them a fanboy
3. why the hell should xbox fanboys get 15 minutes of insulting and deriding another company? don’t they ALREADY do that? i forgot, was it the lack of exclusives or the constant firmware updates sony was being teased for before? oh i’m so forgetful
4. the playstation can deflect bullets
5. sorry to say but this comment is pretty hostile cause your comment is hostile, sorry if i offended you mate, your comment just rubbed me (and 9 others aparently) the wrong way, sorry.
6. this is my most important point: sony. may. NOT. recover.
i don’t think you understand the severity of sony’s situation here, they got hacked and LOST ALOT OF THIER USERS SENSITIVE INFORMATION, some lesser companies call for bankrupsy right after something like that happens, this is going to affect sony in the EXTREMELY long run, hell it might even effect if they even go in the running for the next console generation, this situation is FUCKING SERIOUSE, no, fucken really, it is, this is the kind of thing that KILLS companies man, have a little sympathy.
yea my bad… this is what I get for commenting before watching the video.
Can’t delete it. Tried… but can’t.
I do have sympathy. I consider this a blow to gaming as a whole and not just Sony. I just hope other will learn from this and take the precautions to prevent it from happening.
I want Sony to make a complete and full recovery and im almost positive they will.
it’s hard walking in here not knowing what to expect and seeing people just totally verbally destroying your favorite console for no other reason than to … get back at the GH?
I really don’t even understand why people took this video as a attack on PS3 and not them.
Me personally I would look at this and think “this dude is calling me stupid for using a PS3″ not “Oh yea! well your precious xbox did this and this and this…”
It’s like as soon as I step foot in this room automatically on the defensive.
Until I started reading… you can tell there are quite a few people in here that are taking this as fanboy flaming and a small group that are seeing this as a personal attack and leaving the console beef out of this.
I just want people to leave the consoles out of this and go after the source.
By the way… I own all 3 consoles… just prefer the 360 for no other reason than personal preference.
smoke you andy. Like come on stupidity and controversy are two different things. This is an example of the first one.
Please research once in a while, running your mouth will get your views but for all the wrong reasons. used to love you guys but you guys are REALLY going downhill
Oh and one more thing, yes PSN was hacked but do I have to remember you “game heroes” the big massive incident of the 3 light of death in the xbox 360 and that one was responsibility of the company but of course you didn’t mention that in the review because you where to busy being blind using the excuse of psn being hacked to attack the sony so next time do a little more research
PD: i just noticed that your last videos game heroes just deleted the star score from the review
One more thing to say, judging by the many video’s I see between Game Heroes, and ScrewAttack, is that ScrewAttack are non-biased, extremly non-biased, you wanna talk about the PS3 with GH, they say SMOKE YOU, with SA, they say sure, want prove, watch this http://www.gametrailers.com/video/top-10-screwattack/701801
Finally, i stopped watching Screw attack because of their bias against Sony, but when they started praising it i started watching again. Fuck these RedNeck heroes! As keith apicarys army said. SCREWATTACK! SCREWATTACK! SCREW ATTACK!
i wouldn’t say screwattack is unbiased, but they are understanding, do go to that link if you want alot of the facts of the situation as well as some sympathy, it’s like i’ve been saying for the last hour, this situation needs tact and understanding to take on, maybe if this smoke you had a bit more sympathy (or apathy i always get those mixed up) it’d be more acceptable, but ah well.
Hey gameheroes… SMOKE YOU! Or at least the one in the green.
I’m sorry but you do not have to be a fanboy to be just as ignorant and immature as one in such a case. To just blindly (yes blindly, you never gave any true details towards why you disliked playstation in general) bash a console with the attitude that you have used looks close enough to a fanboy to say such a thing. Then you ironically imply that anyone who has a negative opinion towards your video is a fanboy. I’m mature enough to see the positive and respectful elements in all consoles. You, on the other hand, want to play favoritism instead of a decent news report. And the comment about the bow sounded like it came from some 6 year old. How does the bow even have anything to do with owning or supporting a playstation 3? It is a matter of appology in japan, and it was probably their most formal way of doing the matter. At least the other guy mostly just tried to ask questions and keep things to himself. Another note is why should sony even give out anything at all? Seriously, a year of free PS+? I’m sorry but that’s crazy, and I feel we do not even need any reward at all. Sony has my respect for trying to handle the situation. I’m not some console fanboy biggot who sits on a couch bitching about how they owe me free stuff and whining about how mostly OUTDATTED credit card info got stolen. Sony is forcing password changes, updating security and patching things up, and they have already won the battle with george hotz. Last I checked this bit is an amount responsibility you do not see many corporations taking. Oh yeah, and sony’s PS3 security has lasted this long meanwhile all of your precious non-PS consoles have had hackers running around in whatever games they can touch ever since the launch year. SMOKE THAT!
We all know Sony is going to take a pretty heavy blow for this, but considering it’s only partially their fault, I see no reason to try and exacerbate things on their end. If someone’s identity gets stolen, Sony will accommodate them, and they already plan on accommodating the rest of the PSN user base. That being said, a couple of weeks without PSN won’t kill anybody, despite how inconvenient it may be.
Personally, I hope Sony bounces back. I’ve had much better experiences with Sony ever since I first bought an XBOX. I’ve liked their software better, their games better and their services better. I see no reason for that view to change over a hacking that could have happened to anyone.
this needed to be said as far as i’m concerned
sony dropped the ball on securing people’s credit card info and now it’s floating around out there for people to abuse and all you people can say is that sony wasn’t at fault here?! those people trusted that sony would take every reasonable precaution to protect their info from theft, instead they built a shitty security system that once broken through there is little to no problem getting info off of without leaving much pointing to theft of info, waited a week to tell anyone ANYTHING about the theft instead of you know? telling people there was a problem within 24 hours of happening and that they might want to monitor their credit card accounts for awhile just to be safe?
there is simply no excuse for this, and now sony is paying the price for being arrogant in the belief that their system was the most secure and not constantly reevaluating how much protection it offered compared to other companies protection schemes
and of course the sony fanboys down thumb a comment that doesn’t treat sony like a god C__C
No, you got thumbs down because you decided to blame the victim. I agree that Sony did not have the best security in place. However, this attack wasn’t done by everyday computer users and just people that google hacking instructions. This intrusion was done by someone or a group of highly skilled users. It was calculated and well executed. You can criticize Sony for not having better security, yes, but only about as much as you can a woman that’s been raped because she’s dressed provocatively. I only hope that it doesn’t happen to Xbox and Wii users, because this attack on Sony proves that it can be done.
You know is pretty bad when in the first 5 second of a review you get face palm.
Now about the “review” you guy just don’t stop attacking the playstation, we get it you don’t like the playstation but do a review and using the excuse of the hacking of the PSN was pretty lame in fact you review leave nothing, was not informative and was not funny
you look like two big immature, you know how hard is to investigated such big problem PSN is a huge system they have check byte for byte to see what is need to be fix and make sure to give more security that the system have before
Why they have don’t catch the responsible? (i doubt that this hacking was a job of only one man) think about this guy he just don’t wake up and said “hmmm i feel to hacking PSN from my laptop”, the responsible is obviously know what he doing and is prepared to prevent that get caught
And also I get email for sony saying “There is no evidence that our main credit card database was compromised. It is in a completely separate and secured environment.” investigate first before star attacking some else
For finish my comment I just going to said shame on you game heroes shame on you this was only a childish attempt to make people laugh by attacking a company that is doing the best to fix this problem
Where’s my stuff to throw at the screen?
But seriously, I’m getting over the whole PSN down pretty easy, cause Portal 2 isn’t out yet in my region, neither is Mortal Kombat (localisation + shipping I guess) So I just have free time to enjoy my Single Player games, which I am doing.
Finds either side stupid. I hate how the consoles allow this blatant favouritism for either side to go on. it’s not professional, not with merit and it just does one thing creates fanboys and girls — yes we really need more of them. PS3 and 360 are both amazing consoles, 360 not just for shooters as many genres are released on it, neither is PS3 just for one genre of game. The person who claimed this above here’s what your complaint sounds like, ‘PS3 is just for Crash games’ since Crash Bandicoot was a major franchise for both PS2 and Playstation.
Handsome Tom was actually very collected here and he was desperately trying to avoid bias, but his friend Andy seemed to wish to go on Soap Box. It’s hardly perfect video or even fair, but Andy was angry, when angry we use sweeping generalization and hyperbole, tis a fact of life. To deny you don’t is denying you’re human.
I’m sick to death with this console war and wish the companies would take some bloody initiative and try quell it. The fans make you look awful, least you could do is try make them be reasonable. Publishers don’t even try stop it, they just let it go on, it’s petty and pathetic. I’m Xbox 360 but I could buy a PS3 if I wished and had the money — guess what I wouldn’t go utterly berserk over it.
P.S: You think GameHeroes are bias have you seen Sage he sounds reasonable but he is a PS3 fanboy. I prefer these guys as they at least don’t hide there opinion under jargon.
Andy was out of order, but then he’s a fanboy and Handsome Tom he tried.
God I hope this Console War ends before I lose my sanity.
Balanced view??? My hairy butt crack it is. You are both ignorant and give BT a bad name
Playstation sucks? I can understand being upset with Sony with how they handled this and frustrated their data might be in the hands of hackers. But to go as far as to say Playstation as a whole, from the PSone through to PS3, sucks? You mean the system that brought us countless classic franchises that are still around today, is bad?
You know, for a group of guys who claim to be so into games that sure seems like a foolish and rash opinion.
I’m not a huge supporter of Sony, even less with SOE, but I can’t logically blame them for all of this. Systems get hacked, data stolen. There’s a whole sub-culture of people who devote themselves to finding ways to do just what happened to Sony. If this didn’t happen now it would have happened later, and it might have been much worse.
At least now, hopefully, Sony and other companies will learn from this and take extra precautions to prevent hackers from getting in. Technology is constantly changing, security methods a couple years ago might be like wet tissue paper now. This won’t be the last hack our beloved systems suffer.
Timeline of events
2010, April 1: Sony removes OtherOS from Playstation 3′s already posessing this feature via firmware update.
2010, April 7: George Hotz modifies releases the first video of a Playstation 3 modified to allow custom firmware restoring this feature.
2011, January 2: George Hotz releases rootkeys for PS3 on his website.
2011, January 11: Sony files a restraining order and lawsuit against George Hotz.
2011, April 11: Sony and George Hotz settle the lawsuit out of court. George Hotz is required never to reverse enginer any Sony products. As part of the lawsuit Sony is given IP addresses of anyone who visited any of George Hotz website, youtube page, and a number of other social websites.
2011, April 16-17: Sony Online Entertainment has credit card information stolen from it.
2011, April 19: Sony’s PSN network is cracked and information is stolen.
2011, April 26: Sony makes official announcement of the PSN intrusion and warns customers that credit card information may have been taken.
2011, May 3rd: Sony officially announces the SOE intrusion.
I’m not saying the first event is explicitly related or was the cause of the second, but I imagine it probably angered someone enough to stick it to Sony.
I have never been a fan of the game heroes guys. I’ve given them a try time and time again but they always come off like idiots. Blistered thumbs is a really nice place but it’s got to really get it’s act together or it’s just going to be like IGN except with angry joe and co.
one reason i can give a big middle finger fuck you to microsoft is because before i got my ps3 my xbox 360 got the red ring ring of death so i sent it to microshit to have them fix it i sent it in 6 times and not one of the times did they fix it eventualy they sent me a new by then i just said fuck u and i took it to my garage and i completely destroyed it and sent them a picture of the end result with my middle finger in the picture
Wow… You really showed them! Paying for a console then destroying it for no other reason than to show a multibillion dollar corporation that “Me no like, so 360 go smash smash”… Might wanna keep that little story to yourself next time, just come off sounding stupid.
First, Captain Commando and now this
Dear Handsome Tom, why do you keep associating yourself with an immature person who’s giving “The Game Heroes” a bad name?
why is he immature? because he doesn’t like ps3?
If you failed to see why, then it’s hopeless trying to explain it to you as well
no, it is because the hack was just used as a scapegoat to pour on the anti Sony BS and how “Great” Xbox and XBL is.
I think we’re missing the point, the PSN debacle is a great blow to Sony’s credibility, but no othe console is safe, Xbox could be the next target. The fact that Sony was the target this time doesen’t make it any less of a console, i found the “i have an Xbox so PS3 sucks” or “I have a PS3 so Xbox sucks” plain dumb, so you have a PS3 good for you, you have a Xbox good for you. I really can’t belive that someone is happy because it happend “to the enemy”. Sorry but this video presents a completely biased opinion, but an opinion non the less…anyways for those who have a PS3 good luck mates, for us Xbox owners let’s keep our eyes open.
That’s why I’m saying… I know Sony will make a total and complete recovery from this, there is no question about that… I just hope Microsoft is beefing up security and ready for the possible worst. Sucks that Sony needed to be made an example of, but so be it… just hope it wasn’t in vein is all.
I believe Sony has the best console of the current generation. The hardware is the most advanced, offers Blu Ray and some very excellent console exclusive games. That being said it sucks that Sony has been hacked. All I can say is they are doing well to bounce back and seem to be genuinely concerned about personal security (not just to cover their butt). They have taken out a $1 million identity theft insurance policy for each of the PSN users. Hindsight is 20/20 and I feel Sony will learn how to do things better. If it should happen again, I may have to eat these words.
I have had credit card information stolen from XBL, and Microsoft didn’t do anything about it. Believe or not, there has been a lot of credit card information theft from XBL and XBL being hacked, not as large as this current PSN thing but it has happened numerous times.
And a last bit of information here. Paying for a service doesn’t mean you get better security.
It’s funny how that NOW after PSN got hacked there are tons of Sony fanboys coming out of the woodwork claiming they have had there credit card info stolen on XBL. Kind of convenient in my books… so no, I don’t buy it. Oh and about people saying that because you pay for XBL you get better service and more security is because you do. It’s a known fact that more than half of the income for XBL goes to constantly updating there systems, keeping security updated and enhancing and bettering there online experience, it’s all there on there website… just look. So the saying “you get what you pay for” does in fact apply here. Not saying it can’t and or wont happen to XBL but there is a reason people have been saying that… because it’s true.
Yeah okay. Don’t believe me. I don’t care cause I had to spend the money out of my pocket to get the issue resolved before any real damage was done to me.
On the fanboy thing, you better believe I am a Sony fanboy, because all of their products have made me happy with my purchase.
And (Fanboyism Engaged) what you get for paying for XBL is something that I can get for free. Yeah. Okay.
the thing I would love to see happen would be Sony dropping the playstation and just leaving Microsoft and Nintendo that would be heaven ^.^
But then all we would get stuck with is games full of cheap gimmicks, and Shooters and sports games.
I guess if you really like shooters or sports games that’s a plus, but I don’t care for either of those types of games, and I’m smart enough not to fall for the “Shiny Key” treatment. How can you root for a gaming company that thinks it’s fan base has the mentality of a 4 year old.
I love how the only good games on the Wii don’t buy in to the stupid motion control gimmick.
Bull, the PS3 has just as many shooters as the 360. People need to stop with this X-Box only has shooters crap. That crap is only relevant to last gen.
Both systems have there fair share of shooters be it 1st or 3rd person but both have their fair share of other style games ill give ps3 this i loved inFAMOUS and mgs4 but other than that i don’t care for there library i have my xox for the hardcore gaming online and i love my wii for my fun casual games
Hey if you like shooters then Xbox is for you, a great system for shooters, and the best system for shooters. I think my Shiny key reference was mistaken for me meaning shooters, I meant motion control bull shit from the wii, by that comment.
As far as shooters on the PS3 the exclusives are alright like resistance, but if you want to play shooters easily recommend the Xbox for that, most because the control is better suited for it.
The reason people associate Xbox with shooters is because thats what made it so popular (halo) and probably 60%+ of Xbox players are shooter junkies.
I’m very much prepared for the thumbs down that I may get from this, but since these two can state their opinion I am going to do the same.
“People say I am a fanboy yet I own all these other systems” .. yet after you said that you chose to put up an Xbox achievement message effect that read “PS3 sucks big time” … hmmm that seems to me like a contradiction in terms there. You can state your opinion that in your mind you feel the PS3 sucks but to have that little effect pop up there just screams “360 FANBOY” to me.
Even after Tom asked you if you think the PS3 sucks or just the PSN sucks you went on to say “Man just playstation sucks, look I almost listened to everyone … ” and you went into this tirade about how you were saving up money to get the system. Have you even played any games on it? Clearly you’ve never owned it, so to say the system itself sucks just because of this incident with PSN you are completely off base and a little ignorant. PS3 does have good games and the system itself is good. Yeah the price point was high at first but recently it’s on par with the 360 price point wise. Also the way you joked about this being a good marketing move for Microsoft and saying “Should keep that under the rug” further proves that. That also tells me that if XBL went down you would just be patient and say “Well they’re doing their best, give them time” Way to be hypocritical. Even if that was a joke, it was done in poor taste.
I also didn’t appreciate how you pretty much mocked the bow at the conference. That is a Japanese show of apology and for you to say “I don’t get it because I don’t have a PlayStation 3″ is completely insulting. Stating your opinion is one thing, but for making fun of a culture’s way of apologizing is a little over the line.
Handsome Tom stated: “Supposedly illegally held security numbers … I guess there’s some sort of security server thing they didn’t do.” Firstly those are comments of speculation and not based on fact. No one can prove that those two things occurred unless there is something in SONY’s statement that I have missed and if I did I apologize for being incorrect.
“You’re supposed to be playing co-op because that is the whole point of Portal 2 .. ” Really? Wow for some reason I have been enjoying the single player campaign a lot on Portal 2 and there is a local co-op mode that you can do as well.
While this is both of your opinions on this, this does nothing but tell me that you yourselves are nothing more than little kids pointing at someone who got hurt yelling “HA HA shows you for picking SONY over Microsoft.” You’re pulling an IGN and just keep adding fuel to the fire. We all know this is going to hurt SONY in the long run both in trust and revenue, but to just blatantly hold them SOLELY responsible for the breach is nothing more than idiotic and ridiculous.
I agree with you 100%, thanks for speaking up, from the thumbs up you recieved I’m not the only one who appreciated.
I agree, I think you might have just said everything I was thinking. Add another thumbs ups.
i just have one word for that… amen!
I fully agree. XBL has had more than it’s share of problems. Picking on the PSN/SOE like this only proves that 360 fanboys can be QUITE immature.
Every see how a PS3 fanboy get’s, it is quite hilarious, but colossally stupid,
XBOX 360 stereotype-ignorant PS3 stereotype- pretentiousness
Favoring one system over another in this day and age is really sad. I find good and bad with all 3 current gen systems.
I do not play favorites. Never did. I owned both a Sega and a Nintendo during the Great Console Wars. Loved them both.
Apparently, some reviewers cannot, or choose not to, be unbiased in their approach to the various systems.
Not very professional.
If I were to have a favorite in this generation of gamer consoles, it would be PS3 for 2 reasons, 1. I don’t own a XBox 360, so it can’t have it on the competing board, 2. the PS3 obviously excieds the Wii, graphically, plays DVD’s and Blu Ray, wider amount of good 3rd party games like the Xbox, the wii has good 3rd party games, but they are so rare at times, and ironically, don’t sell well.
I agree to what you say about these guy’s, and there opinion on PS3, and I just can not hold this anymore, this is where the line has officially crossed (plus I think those two guys, or at least the short one, hates 8-Bit Micky). I am not a fan of these guy’s work, I barley know shit sometimes other than: Spoiler Alert, Trailer Trash, Podcast’s, special’s maybe, but seriously, these are the same guys that bashed out on the Sonic 4 TEASER trailer, and the Halo Reach live action TEASER TRAILER, and praised a TEASER TRAILER to Black Opps ’cause, IDK (I like CoD by the way) also each trailer trash that has teaser’s most likely last more that 3 minutes.
I first noticed PS3 hate when they saw the new trailer to Twisted Metal, having no knowledge on the series (even though the short one say’s he own’s a PSOne and PS2, but never heard of the Twisted Metal series, but what killed me is when he said PS3 has no games…
WHAT, it’s been 5 years since 2006, FIVE YEARS, and PS3 has no games (he didn’t even say no good games, just games, even though they, I think played Little Big Planet, and saw the trailer to that game too, even though they hate PS3). They can go to wikipedia and look for a list of exclusives for PS3, in 2010 (or 09 I forgot) 360 had 6 or 7 exclusives for the year, PS3 had 9 or 10. Also if PlayStation sucks, why do you own a PSOne, why did you buy the PS2, why do you still own both if you seem to hate PlayStation so much?
Also, for gamer’s that have (extremely negative) opinions on PS3, seems to have no PERSONAL EXPERIENCE TO BASE THERE FACTS ON! So there complaint about an apology was that they don’t get it, and it was stupid? They do know that in most Asian cultures if not all, a bow is a sign of respect or and apology, judging by the photo, and the short one saying 7 seconds, that was a good bow, not good, extremely honorable bow, especially since Sony is a big company. Plus I guess it was Sony’s fault they got hacked, if it was Microsoft, I guess you would have forgave them if they had a 1 minute long apology, for PS3, a long, deep down, honorable bow is nothing to you.
These guy’s make Irate Gamer look like he has good point’s. These guy’s make early Distressed Watcher not hate-able. Wait, if you hate PS3, why not buy Portal 2 and Mortal Kombat on 360 since you own it. Wait, why would you buy MK for PS3, Kratos… didn’t you say PlayStation sucks, isn’t God of War, oh, IDK, on the PLAYSTATION!
But this isn’t focused on Tom, this is focused on the short one… really unlikable. If he is acting like himself in these video’s, he’s an asshole, compare to Fraser, sometimes s douche on his show VGA, but he is fun to watch, fun to enjoy, with Distressed Watcher, he had a hate base that is slowly getting away, DW is fun to watch, his style in assholish, but really agreeable, without Tom, Game Heroes, to me, would be a site full of assholes, no, one asshole that is like a tumor in my opinion, a tumor. It doesn’t help that he’s biased, or that we have to seem to agree with this guy, but he does it in a way that if you don’t agree with him, he is an asshole that will be loved by other assholes. Recently I watch Spoony’s Vlog of Mortal Kombat (watch it) and I don’t agree with it for most of the part, some yes some no, but he still has a charm to him, and constantly reminds just because he made an opinion, (which Angry Joe disagreed on (and they got into an argument, not a holy fight argument, but still and argument) doesn’t mean you are any worse for not agreeing to him, and recommended for people to rent it, just for story mode. See, that is why Spoony is the guy that will slap you (in a way) and apologize after (there are limit’s though), remember the ending to his Final Fantasy 8 review, the ending sequence was just a giant I AM SORRY to the people that liked this game (as he stated in the commentary).
I am not a PS3 fanboy, I did not complain that FF13 went to 360 too, I don’t consider PSN better than XBLA (which I consider more user friendly, ironic since the Windows vs. Mac, and PC is more complicated, but this is not the point), I love PlayStation, I love Nintendo, I have fun memories with the 360, and I don’t own one,
but to make this short, I can not agree to a guy that is an obvious PS3 hater (if not a PS hater in general), that seems himself higher just because he has an online website, he is Irate Gaming us (meaning considering yourself higher for small reasons). I will probably get a hell load of downs, but in the end *sigh* this was too long.
Well spoken GothicVixen_32…..well spoken. Personally, I too own a Wii, Xbox 360 AND PS3. The way that Andy (the obvious 360 Fanboy or not, but nonetheless a fanboy to a console that he speaks out of mocking at us – the PS3 owners/gamers – and praising 360 that he thinks won’t experience anything like what Sony is going through now), and Handsome Tom……well, he’s tall.
I mean, there are some areas Tom said were wrong like “Supposedly illegally held security numbers … I guess there’s some sort of security server thing they didn’t do.” which, like you said GothicVixen_32, are speculations and not based on facts. And there are areas he said are right when he 1) asks Andy which does it suck – PS3 or PSN, and Andy simply said “Playstation sucks” which convinces me he means whatever we associated with Sony’s offering with gaming, movies, etc., we are idiots. In other words, we PS3 owners suck….even gamers like me, once again, owns a Wii and Xbox 360 – the very 360 that Andy BOASTED his love for Microsoft’s console’s “flawless marketing and offering with no trace of problems like being hacked” like PSN; 2) hearing Andy saying he doesn’t get the idea of why Sony executive members bowing because he “doesn’t own PS3″ is Japanese show of apology, and he had the gull to make fun of it because he doesn’t “get it”?
Andy, to be honest with you, I like you. You seem like a great guy. But this? I’m getting a feeling you are starting to reduce yourself to be the impression of the The Distressed Watcher of Gaming (admittedly, he is okay. He’s not my favorite reviewer but I like him. Particularly, I am happy he had the privilege to bash Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen – the movie that I hated that embarrassed the first Transformers movie that I enjoyed), or worse the Irate Gamer……I’m sorry, but that’s the truth and you’re putting yourself into a plate that all of us are gonna give you our piece of our minds. No joke. Furthermore, seeing you put up that Xbox achievement message effect saying “PS3 SUCKS BIGTIME” which screams “I’M PROUD TO BE A 360 GAMER” which I translate that remark “I’M PROUD TO BE A 360 FANBOY!” just makes me pity for you dude. If not, then you and Tom made me sick. And that says a lot for the both of you.
Last, but not least, I also agree with GuyPersonMan that said, “Plus I think those two guys, or at least the short one, hates 8-Bit Micky.” because, I am getting the feeling that, lately to this day, 8-Bit Mickey has been getting the attention and notice of his work like appearing on that TV show to play games to work for Sony (someone correct me and let me know what’s the name of the show that 8-Bit Mickey appear on, I forgot what is called) and been doing more interviews and appearing cons often than Tom and Andy combine. Seriously, 8-Bit Mickey, at least, hasn’t put himself in a fiery spot like these two guys are now of bad-mouthing about Sony’s problem. Geez.
And before anyone dares to tell me “I’M A FANBOY! MY COMMENT MEANS NOTHING! BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!”, I’ll let you all I’m not a PS3 fanyboy – I’m not even a fanboy to Wii, 360 or any other consoles that I owned years ago. I’m a fan of gaming – I love games, I like to play games. I might not know so much to talk about games like the contributors – Angry Joe, Jew Wario and such – and I don’t consider myself a reviewer to do a video review of some sort, but at least I know I’m not one of those fools who thinks that their, quote/unquote, crap don’t stinks, which tells me they should never touch a video game to begin with and should stay away from the gaming world if they have NOTHING to say about it. Screw the Wii fanboys, screw the 360 fanboys, even the PS3 fanboys as well. And I can also say to Tom and Andy to screw themselves for bad-mouthing at our tastes on gaming choices to play Wii games, 360 games, PS3 games and any other kind of gaming.
Okay, okay, maybe Tom is not in a fiery spot yet. He’s fine. But to Andy, which is the main point of my comment here, I have only thing to say this to him….particularly his opinion to expose his mixed feelings about PS3 in direct:
Andy, my man: You FAILED!
The show that 8-Bit Mickey appeared on was called The Tester
Should’ve ended that statement with “SMOKE YOU !” XD
GothicVixen_32 , thank you , for saving 30 minutes of my time to type a reply ^^
GameHeros , SMOKE YOU ! for being a bunch of retarded biased douchebags !
My only real arguement about this is, this is the PS3 first real problem. Xbox 360 has had the red ring of death and other hardware problems since it was released.
ok i love how you Sony fans fall back to that when you cannot come up with something else, yes they had that problem but halfway thru the cycle they pretty much took are of it and they were more than happy to fix any that broke down for free… Microsoft cares about there fan base Sony just cares about the money i think they proved it with all this bull crap ……
“Microsoft cares about there fan base” LMFAO
also it’s spelled “their” genius
Microsoft also only care about making money that’s why they make you pay for multiplayer. And i know a friend who has an XBOX 360 and he had 6 of them because every time one broke Microsoft just gave him a new one and that’s a waste.
Well, I’d hate to burst your bubble kid, but Microsoft doesn’t care about it’s fans either. They were not happy to pour company money into an extra 3 year warranty, and employ a bunch of people to fix xboxs for free. It was to prevent even more lawsuits than they already had, because it was someones bright idea to release a console that would brick 75% of the time. Microsoft is 100% at fault there.
Yeah it was Sony’s fault for having shitty security, and also only having 1 source code. However PS3 has also been getting hacked to hell lately. I would say fault in this situation goes about 50%-50% or maybe 40%-60%.
It doesn’t matter really, bottom line is, both situations should not have happened; RRoD or this BS with the hack. Don’t deceive yourself into thinking either company cares about you. They are not in the business to spread love and care to all, they are in the business to make money.
My friends Xbox red ringed 2 months after his warrenty was up, and xbox wouldn’t fix his problem for free. I think that shows that they also only care about the money. To be frank these are companies, it would be stupid of them not to care about the money. Thats why they created the ps3/xbox yeah they can have pride in there work, but when it comes down to the wire as a company they have to choose what makes them the most money, otherwise that company won’t survive long.
You sir, just made me laugh.
Oh and the Xbox 360 was the first new console of this generation right? I was wondering because it was pretty much their fault for the whole $60 dollar game thing. Correct me if I am wrong.
I wouldn’t say the 360 is exactly the reason games are $60, that would me more due to increased production cost and the new tech used to produced 720p or higher graphics. However considering tech prices go down rather quickly, the production costs and the price of games should also drop.
However I believe we are also looking at the same situation here as with the cost of gasoline in NA. The consumer base has pretty much accepted paying $3+ per gallon, so I doubt we will ever see it drop below $2.50.
The same goes for games, the consumer base has pretty much accepted the $60 price tag without argument. So the days of games being $30-$40 on day one are over.
But hey, at least we aren’t looking at the cartridge game price. Some of those were coming out $70 on day one
I think pointing fingers at the other camp (in this case, Microsoft) is a poor show. You may complain that games are $60 dollars, but if you go back to even the days of the SNES, you will find that games would cost far more than that. I have a copy of James Pond 2 for the Mega Drive (Genesis) that has a £65 price tag on it, roughly $120 at the time.
A company cares about its consumers in a way that a company should. Sony and MS want to keep its consumer base as happy as possible. The happier the customer, the more money they spend. Yes, it comes down to money, but it would be a really stupid business plan to act differently.
Even Valve, the company that gives away stuff for free left right and centre, do so to gain higher sales for their next title. Make people happy, they will happily buy your product. Give and take people, that’s what its all about.
@ Yousif A.
For some reason I can’t reply to you, but I wasn’t complaining about software prices at all. Nor was I placing blame on Microsoft so I fail to see where the “poor show” on my part is. In fact, I said it was not Microsoft’s fault. I was just talking about why games went up. So I think that was meant to be in response to someone else.
The real question is, why can I reply to everyone except you? Why are you able to reply to me and I can’t reply to you? That should be fixed.
I’m not upset or anything, just saying. Hell, you could have clicked reply to my post by mistake and that might not have been meant for me.
so let me ask you “thegamequeeroes” and anyone else watching this. If the person next to you had their wallet and credit cards stolen, would you point and laugh? Would you tell them they should’ve purchased a wallet like yours? Would you criticize their self defense and tell them they should’ve seen this coming? Or would you make an incredibly childish, poorly edited, poorly shot, video about how terrible they are and how much they suck.
This video lowers, the already questionable, standards of blisteredthumbs.
While it’s good to raise a discussion about this sort of thing, this is definitely not the way to go about it. Come on dude, a little more civility would go a long way in proving a point. Insulting someone will just result in flames or the dreaded Thumbs Down.
besides me calling them “queeroes” how was that not civil?
been on the internet long?
Come on dude, I’ve got no beef with you. All I’m asking for is civility.
No xbox sucks…
I have both systems and Ps3 is FAR superior.
Wow… that really made them think. How bout putting some actual thought into your argument next time. You sound like you should be sitting next to Andy jerking him off while he shit talks the PS3.
OK the main argument i read on here is that any one can get hacked…… we know that i rember back in 08 xbox had a hacker problem but you know what day 1 they sent out an email letting people know instead of waiting 9 freaking days that’s the point GH is trying to make if you freaking fan-boys can clean the wax out of your ears
That’s one account. We’re talking about the infrastructure of an entire network being attacked and brought down. Two completely different kettles of fish.
With that said, I agree with other people here that saying that it’s Sony’s fault for being attacked is like saying that someone who is killed in a hit and run is at fault because they should have never been anywhere near the road.
more like a guy who is running around in the street paying no attention to the cars out there, get’s run over and blames the cars instead of their own stupidity -___-
seriously it’s been known for awhile that the PS3 and PSN security had been designed around a strong wall and no standing army mentality and the hackers were able to exploit that
Aha, you’re calling others fanboys? Have you actually taken a look at your own comments at all? That, and I’m not sure where you pulled 9 days from; we were alerted on Monday, which was roughly five days. Though I still think Sony could’ve gone about this better, it’s not entirely their fault. Even the best banks can be hacked by someone with the will, and that’s who we should really be criticizing here.
Oh, and that video is ridiculously biased FYI.
Sony losed me. They lost me for most of the games out there released on both consoles, they lost me for any future consoles released, they lost me for almost everything. I don’t even WANT to buy some Sony stuff at least at a Sony Store, and now my computer is a full piece of dog shit and I wanted to buy a new one, and I looked for the sony stuff but F*ck this ! I wont, I fucking won’t buy anything else from them before a huge while.
This is very pityful because the PS3 is my first Playstation Hardware I ever had, I’ve always been with Sega, Nintendo and even Microsoft on Xbox 1, and now that I’m saying ”well… I should try some stuff out of my comfort zone, see something else, find some new licences” THIS Happens. And this is not the first majour issue with the Playstation Network ! Can I remember you the ”February 29th 2010” idiotic joke that maked some consoles CRASH ? It never happened on my Xbox 360, it never fucking happened my Wii, but it all happen on this junk that is the PS3 !
Their servers SUCK ASS, they configure stuff like my ass do. and this is a shame because the hardware in itself is not that bad and we saw it when we we’re able to use… you know, FUCKING LINUX, that it was powerful and had potential ! but now they have the ballz to bow for 7 seconds and say ”sorry ?”, plus a month of their poorly-made Xbox LIVE Ripoff ?!? This is my last Playstation console. Screw this joke, screw their policies, screw those fuckers, viva Nintendo and of course the Good Ol’ PC.
Someone needs more engrish class here.
Oh yeah… insulting my english because It’s not my first language… what a great argument.
I don’t agree with his main point but he does have a point about the English remark.
It seems a lot of people already wrote what I would have written, so let me just say that I hope the hackers are found so they can rot in jail for a while. }>P
I’m gonna preface this with I am slightly a Sony Fanboy. Out of all the next gen systems, Sony comes out with the type of exclusives that I really enjoy.
People have a right to be pissed off by this. Sony did not take the preventative measures they should have to keep this information as protected as possible. However, if I may play the devil’s advocate, most of the PSN users (if they really wanted to protected there card numbers 100%) would have implemented preventative measures themselves.
I do not have to worry about my credit card numbers at all, and I have been a subscriber to both PSN and SOE. Why? I bought prepaid cards. For my EQ2 subscription I got the prepaid month card and as a PSN user I baught preloaded PSN cards. Yes this way of doing things is not convenient true, and so many times it would have been easier to put my credit card on PSN and not worry about it. However i have never and will never (especially now) trusted companies with my information, and in the end I guess it paid off. (I still lost my email and my personal info, but to be honest that info is available on my facebook page, and since my PW is different from all my other stuff, I don’t have to worry)
Lastly the majority of the blame lies with the hackers. Even if Sony had Deadlocked (Doctor who term, if you haven’t seen it yet WATCH IT!!!) their system, hackers would still have gotten in, I don’t see how someone can blame Sony for a person (or a group of persons) illegal activities. Sony didn’t put you at risk, the hackers did, the blame lies with them.
Well my rants over. May the thumbs down for siding with Sony commence.
PS. Seriously watch Doctor Who it’s teh leet.
Deadlock in simplest of itteration in computer terms means that you have Data A used by Process A. Data used by any process is locked in. Process A needs Data B to finish its work with Data A. At the same time you have Process B that is using Data B and requires Data A. Ergo both data stacks are locked in by two proceses waiting by each others. I don’t how would be possible to lock down entire base with that.
No only watched that one season with the ninth doctor couse the 10th doctor just looked too much like Richard Hammond and I couldn’t take him serriously. So I don’t know waht was meant in there.
Banks have computer systems connected with the internets too. And they have all your debit and credit card info too on those. Hackers would have ages ago wiped entire banks out if it was that easy to do so. Banks value you’r trust waaay more and employ much systems developed by the best ppl on the marked – many of these proffesionals admittedly were hackers before switching sides. Yes it is true any computer system can be compromised – as was proven in last years major cyber terrorist attack, the most sophisticated to date, whose peretrators still remain a mystery (look up Stuxnet) – but bank systems seem to be better protected.
On te plus side Sony did 1 thing correctly. They didn’t store passwords (according to their press releases at least), but their hashes. Hasshing is one way only proces – ie it is irreversible. when you enter a password twhat you have typed it transformed into a hash and then hassh values are compared – if they match it means the passwords match. You can guess cleartype that hashed only by endless trial and error – ie. brute force method.
Well I guess you learn something new every day, however I believe he uses the term deadlock in the show when it comes to other things then just computer systems. Like the doors to a star cruiser.
As far as far as the security of the network, yes I believe that more preventative measures could have been taken then they were, however I doubt that would have stopped this.
If it turns out to have been Anonymous who did this, then we can assume it’s them doing what they said they would do after Sony went after GeoHotz. They were determined to compromise Sony, and to ruin there credibility, and they did.
They had the determination to do it, and I highly doubt any roadblock Sony put up would have stopped them for long.
Also on another note, we really don’t know how long it too the hackers to do this, they could have been working on hacking Sony for a long time before they finally made it through. If that is true, maybe there security was better then we think. We don’t know both sides of the story so we shouldn’t judge,
I’ll switch to XBox when they make XBox Live free. PSN is still free and is just as good as XBox Live in terms of quality and so I will stick with Playstation. It’s as simple as that. I’m not paying monthly for a service that I get for free on the PC and PS3 and even Wii.
Hackers suck. Its a fact of life. They will do anything they can to break into a system. Whoever is behind this most likely has been planning it for a long time. I sure as hell think microsoft has something to do with this. Anonymous claimed responsibility the last time they attacked (but the code was stolen) and I think they sold it to microsoft and the team at microsoft decided they could bring down their biggest competitor and secure the game market. But thats just my inner conspiracy theorist. Hackers do whatever they want. I remember when the Verisign network was hacked into a few years ago and credit cards were stolen. I am sure that microsoft is going to play this up during E3. Ohhh we are a secure system. We will never get hacked. Because they have plenty of hackers on their payroll, that act as defense precautions. But corporate espionage or sabotage could be behind this. But it sucks I can’t use my ps3 account to play portal, but i have it on steam and I have been playing it that way.
I personally think we can’t blame Sony, fully, for not having their data protected properly. In a logical stance is it humanly impossible to fully protect a storage that can be rewritten unless the information cannot be rewritten.
If a human or humans can create a security lock, humans can crack the code and access whatever data that is protected. Thus, Sony can’t and shouldn’t take all the heat. It’s like punishing a security guard for not being able to take down a gang of thieves…or a tank a thief got hold of.
You can sit in your comfortable fucking couch and judge till your face goes blue, but it’s not all black and white. There will always be someone better out there to breach any security systems.
As for how Sony chooses to handle it, it’s pretty poor, and that’s probably why GH put this vid up. How vague this movie may get sometimes.
You know what’s funny? Often the people who don’t even own a PS3 scream the loudest of all.
I’m also mad at Sony that the whole thing happen, I can’t play online, check out what my buddies play etc, but this video was just pathetic. Sorry to say it, it was.
I know man it’s like “haha you got your credit info stolen! Microsoft RULZ USA! USA! USA!” fuckin morons. This post is gay-tarded and so is the author. Microsuck fanboy!
Sony illegally held peoples’ credit card security numbers and gave the hackers a week long pass to use those numbers by being completely irresponsible and not notifying the public right away. Sony may not have been personally responsible for the hack but their irresponsible and ILLEGAL business practices lead to the exposure of personal credit card information. This is valid grounds for lack of trust. That’s what the complaint here is and everyone on here flaming at GH for bashing Sony about the hack apparently have zero comprehension skills as you obviously missed the point of the video. They were condemning Sony’s corporate irresponsibility and illegal practices not simply the fact that they got hacked. Of course that can happen to anyone. And they’re not saying that Sony sucks because of this incident. Sony launched at too high of a price point and lost a huge share of the market, incidentally losing a lot of 3rd party support and even the exclusivity of some of their most sacred IPs (e.g. Final Fantasy). Sony doesn’t suck because of the hack and GH never said that. A system is only as good as its games and that’s where Sony fails. The hack just adds to PS3′s already negative image created by the aforementioned issue. That’s all GH was saying.
‘A system is only as good as its games and that’s where Sony fails.’
This is where any argument you previously made falls down for me. There are loads of great games on the PS3.
Sony gave the hackers a week to use the credit card information?
Um as far as i know no ones money has been taken like this, at least in the US.
Also I would love to know how you know how long it took sony to realize what had been compromised. Please do tell where you information comes from.
All the misinformation surrounding this whole ordeal is quite tiring. Everybody always believes everything they’re told.
And one more thing. About PayPal. The way to deal with that is by not accessing PayPal through any email links. If you get an email about your PayPal account, just go directly to the PayPal website through your browser’s address bar, or through a fav link in your browser. That way, you know you’re dealing directly with PayPal and not some online scam.
By the way, those of you who are criticizing GH for this video, keep in mind that a fair amount of their complaint has nothing to do with Sony being hacked, but with how Sony handled the situation, their response (or lack thereof). For example, the fact that Sony did not notify their customers until well after it was discovered that the credit card numbers had been accessed. Had the customers been notified sooner – even if without the full details – it could have given them time to cancel or change their credit card numbers to protect themselves from fraud. Another part of the complaint is that Sony wasn’t doing enough to compensate their customers for the loss of service. 30 days of the premium service? I got that from XBL as a promotion once! While it might be nice for those who don’t have it, for a time anyway, it really ends up just being a standard promotion for the premium service. And finally, as it stands, Sony still hasn’t given us an ETA for when the service is going to be back up and running.
The hack-in wasn’t Sony’s fault. I get that. But how well are they doing in handling it? That’s the chief question, and one that the GH’s were trying to bring to the forefront.
Oh, and while we’re at it, let’s keep in mind that at least some of the compromise has to do with how Sony stored the relevant information on their servers. Had they kept the credit card numbers and other privacy information on a separate secure server, instead of accessible directly through the network, this information would not have been breached.
And what’s more, I think Andy’s point still stands in this, too: this extended outage is going to hurt Sony’s sales. If I were in the market for a gaming system, and I had a choice between a system with online access and a system whose network has been down for nearly 2 weeks, guess which one I’d buy.
Thats why I use the best console on the market. Ok it might not really be a console. It’s PC! Couse we own yers interwebs!
Joking asside, I’ll put it as simple as possible: If it was as simple to hack everything everyone would have hacked all the banks ages ago. But banks value therir customers or at least their trust enough to employ best people in the field to prevent that. Those systems can be hacked yes, but it’s great deal harder.
Oh my god…I thought that after he said three times”Playstation sucks!” a ghost of Norio Ohga will appear with katana and will chase him across the room))
Playstation 3 on it’s own is a great system with a good line up of exclusives and great graphics for a 6 year old system. PSN is the thing that is not so great, but that does not mean that the system is crap. I got mine back at christmas last year and that is one buy I don’t regret. I’m just annoyed at sony’s response to this situation. Hopefully they get it back up sometime this month but I right nowI have no need to switch to the XBOX. Both my siblings have one and I am not a fan of the games released for it opposed to the PS3 line up
Personally I think their should be professional discussions like this between gamers that use different products,alot of gamers just cuz you just use different consoles can be real ass holes. To the 360 gamers, this shit can potentially happen to you guys besides the phishing scams stop being ass holes on this because no matter the system of version of game all of us plays…all of us are gamers, were one in this community not separate.
Plus guys notice one thing, in every other Cyber attack,Governments barely do jack shit in hacking attacks like Mc Donalds,Comcast etc. Or even regular Terror attacks and murders they don’t take it seriously but as it happens they try to pass Legislation to limit our rights if these 2 things succeed(Murder happening all the time) BUT IF it comes to Video Game companies or breeches the Violence in them GOD FORBID they quickly pass any legislation to get things passed.
Sony is just as a victim as you and I in this…
you guys sound like trolls….this isn’t sony’s fault, they are going beyond their responsibility by working with the FBI to get those assholes…so u guys really need to quityabitchin….xbox isnt any better…they’ve been hacked before in 2008 AND the first gen of the damn things DIDNT WORK
I love how Sony fanboys always lash back with “oh yea! well guess what XBOX did!”… they actually got hacked in 07′ not 08′ and that’s when the online was in it’s infant stages… FIVE YEARS AGO! and Red Ring has been fixed… anything else? This is 2011… the reason people are pissed is because the console has been out for over 5 years already… security shouldn’t be an issue… this shouldn’t have happened. It sucks that It did happen and I wish Sony the best of luck getting this fixed… but in all honesty… I shouldn’t have even been an issue this far into the game.
and if this happened to M$ what would you people expect in return? i can put up with PSN going down better then having my 360 RROD.
i wouldnt care about all this crap if they gave me arcana heart 3 for nothing.
Good god! how many times are you Sony fanboys gonna use this RROD argument!? It’s been fixed… it’s done! It hasn’t been an issue for a couple of years now. I’m not defending this video because it was incredibly biased and fanboyish as well as immature… but if your gonna argue with them, use a relevant argument… like I dunno… PSN is free and XBL isn’t or whatever… at least that’s relevant to here and now and not something that was happening 3+ years ago. jesus.
Really? The Playstation sucks in general after a hack that wasn’t there fault? Isn’t that a little ignorant, anything can get hacked, anything! What happens if Xbox Live gets hacked, will you go on the air saying Microsoft and Xbox sucks in general? I highly doubt it.
Ok, I’m prepared for the thumbs downs I’m going to get, but I’m going to present my stance on this. Sure, Sony here is in the wrong to a degree because the security they had on Credit and debit card numbers wasn’t good enough, fine, I get that, but ultimately it could happen to absolutely any network which you use your credit card on. If you put in your details to a site, I thought it was expected of you to realise that there are hackers out there who will try and get ahold of that information to steal your money. Submitting your details means that you are well aware of the risks of using these things online, at least to my understanding of things. And it’s not like there isn’t a far safer alternative in the form of those PSN cards you can buy.
Don’t misunderstand me, they still have a responsibility to their customers to protect their information, but you cannot tell me that every single online network which possesses valuable data is totally impregnable. I just cannot see why the actions of an external hacker group completely and totally compromises a lot of people’s trust in Sony. A dent, of course, it’s bound to happen, but 30 days of PS+ for that? Why is it necessary? Almost everyone I have talked to has already taken precautions against this by changing their details and getting a new debit card through. It’s an easy, free process.
And just as a precaution, I’m not a Sony Fanboy. I do not support every single one of Sony’s endeavours. I think PS+ is stupid. They offer me a method of playing games online without some bullshit subscription, and I am going to take it. Not that I’m harping against you guys, GameHeroes, you guys are entitled to a response just as I am, but I just wanted to make myself clear.
It’s not Sony’s fault they got hacked. The cyber devision of homeland security and the FBI are investigating the hack because it was so well planned and sophisticated that the same people could hack into many other places (even Xbox live).
Gamezeroes…… Thats what yo are after this shity video it like i would say: I can’t wait intill the 360 get hacked realy good….
(facepalm) Sooo… your hoping another console get’s hacked and a gaming company brought to it’s knees so you can say “ha ha! I told you so” and rub it in there face? your no better than they are and in a sense the ultimate stupid Sony fanboy. Super lame… think about what you say before you say it next time. just made yourself look incredibly stupid and immature.
I find it funny that I got a gift card for 100 dollars off a ps3 right after this happened. Guess I won’t be using that any time soon.
I would. I’d just either wait until the network is back up, or just get the system and not use it online for the time being.
People should be mad at the attacker rather than the victim.
Sony was running an outdated version of Apache on an outdated version of Red Hat. They seem pretty at fault to me.
I am sure you could have been more rational than just yelling “Playstation sucks!!!. not only PSN, but the PS sucks!” because their network have been hacked. Any systems can get hacked, and i am sure you know it.
Anyways it doesn’t really affect me because i play single player games on my PS3
Still, i do agree that it’s gonna be hard to gain the thrust back from their consumers, and many of us will have to get PSN cards instead of buying instantly online.
This is the reason i always bought prepaid point cards for purchases, i saw the this as a possiblity from the moment i got a PS3. I do the same for XBL and people have called me paranoid for it.
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Birdman comes out swinging against the last son of Krypton and wants to know if there has been a good Superman game? Oh yeah, happy 3 year anniversary for RAD as well!