Dragon Age II Expansion Scrapped, BioWare moves on to the Future
Mark Darrah, one of the executive producers of Dragon Age II, has announced that the team is moving on from the semi-sordid tale of Hawke and his companions for good.
Posted By Bennett The Sage about 1 year, 2 months ago
Mark Darrah, one of the executive producers of Dragon Age II, has announced that the team is moving on from the semi-sordid tale of Hawke and his companions for good.
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We knew it was coming…but what details about Dragon Age can be revealed to the players? Read on to find out!
Can the narrative of a game and its gameplay ever co-exist together? Let’s find out by looking at a controversial game, Dragon Age II.
Does this previously unexplored story of the Hawke bring glory to the family name or is it simply another example of good intentions gone horribly awry?
The digital distribution food fight continues with Electronic Arts claiming that Valve’s draconian terms and conditions of Steam have forced them to remove Dragon Age II from the store shelves of Valve’s baby. Does this all amount to egg on somebody’s face?
First came the announcement about some new DLC for Dragon Age 2 and now here comes the (indeed suitably epic) trailer.
While development for Dragon Age 3 is just starting to kick into high gear, fans of the Dragon Age series will not have to wait much longer for some new content, thanks to a just newly announced piece of DLC for intended Dragon Age 2.
It seems that Dragon Age II is certainly no stranger to controversy at this point,
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Mark Darrah, one of the executive producers of Dragon Age II, has announced that the team is moving on from the semi-sordid tale of Hawke and his companions for good.
Posted By Robert G. about 8 months, 1 week ago
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We knew it was coming…but what details about Dragon Age can be revealed to the players? Read on to find out!
Posted By Robert G. about 9 months, 1 week ago
Can the narrative of a game and its gameplay ever co-exist together? Let’s find out by looking at a controversial game, Dragon Age II.
Posted By Shaun K. about 9 months, 1 week ago
Does this previously unexplored story of the Hawke bring glory to the family name or is it simply another example of good intentions gone horribly awry?
Posted By Johnny Maloney about 9 months, 2 weeks ago
The digital distribution food fight continues with Electronic Arts claiming that Valve’s draconian terms and conditions of Steam have forced them to remove Dragon Age II from the store shelves of Valve’s baby. Does this all amount to egg on somebody’s face?
Posted By Shaun K. about 10 months, 1 week ago
First came the announcement about some new DLC for Dragon Age 2 and now here comes the (indeed suitably epic) trailer.
Posted By Shaun K. about 10 months, 1 week ago
While development for Dragon Age 3 is just starting to kick into high gear, fans of the Dragon Age series will not have to wait much longer for some new content, thanks to a just newly announced piece of DLC for intended Dragon Age 2.
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Zeitgeist Game Review – Released only one and a half years following the epic Dragon Age Origins, can DA2 live up to its predecessor?
Posted By AngryJoe about 1 year, 2 months ago
Angry Joe reviews the sequel to Dragon Age: Origins. Is it better than the original? More importantly, is it worth your money? Joe details what went wrong in this follow up to one of the most compelling fantasy RPGs of all time.
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Dragon Age 2 was, for any number of reasons, one of the more divisive games to come out from Bioware in some time. Some people thought it was a brilliant reinvention of the franchise, while others saw it as unnecessary tinkering with an already successful formula. Now the first major piece of DLC for the game has hit the digital shelves in the form of a new content based expansion titled Legacy. Does this previously unexplored story of the Hawke bring glory to the family name or is it simply another example of good intentions gone horribly awry?
| PROS | Good story, enjoyable tweaks to DA2 combat, well designed environments |
| CONS | Only makes small changes to overall DA2 formula, poor ally AI, some bugs present, |
| WTF?! | Whatever insanity is going on with Larius’ hair |
Dragon Age: Origins had a decidedly mixed success rate when it came to the various examples of DLC released for the game. Outside of Awakening (which could have easily been a completely stand-alone game in the first place), the remainder of Origin’s expansions were fairly pointless affairs that did little to add to the overall experience of the original game. So it was with some trepidation that I began my journey through Legacy, the first major expansion for Dragon Age 2. Thankfully, what I got was less the kind of DLC that the original Dragon Age: Origins tended to produce, and instead an experience more akin to the excellent expansions that Mass Effect 2 continuously rewards fans of that game with.
Legacy tells a previously untold adventure of Hawke and company that can be accessed at almost any point in the game, including post-ending. The game opens with the now familiar scene of everyone’s favorite dwarf Varric being interrogated by the dour templar Cassandra. She brings up the fact that Varric has been less than forthcoming about a certain adventure Hawke had undertaken in regards to a previously unknown Grey Warden prison. With a shrug and his trademark grin, Varric agrees to tell the tale, but warns Cassandra that she will likely never believe how an encounter with the mafia-esque dwarven organization known as the Carta would lead Hawke to heretofore undiscovered familial secrets and, ultimately, into a confrontation with an entity out of the darkest recesses of the history of Thedas itself…
Legacy’s story is a well done and highly enjoyable narrative. While it never reaches the depths and complexities of the game’s main narrative, it none-the-less weaves an engaging yarn that has major implications for both Hawke and the overarching mythology of the Dragon Age universe. Depending on which characters a player chooses to bring with them, Legacy also gives the other party members (Varric, the Hawke sibling, and Anders in particular) a good amount to say and do, a fact that only serves to make the expansion’s story all the more engaging. Legacy’s climax also features the kind of tricky choices that Bioware likes to include in their games, with the aftermath of said choices promising repercussions for players somewhere down the line, be it in another expansion or possibility even Dragon Age 3. Overall, Legacy produces a tale that stands well enough on its own while also introducing elements that serve to hint at where the next major chapter in the Dragon Age saga is likely to be heading.
Legacy does not dramatically change Dragon Age 2′s approach to gameplay, but it does feature some significant tweaks that help to freshen up the overall experience. First and foremost, Legacy almost entirely (save for one brief encounter early on in the expansion) does away with the kind of limited and repetitive dungeon design that helped to mar the overall experience of DA2. There is nice amount of visual variety in the various areas that make up the Warden’s Prison, ranging from a desert landscape to crumbling dungeon tunnels to the mist filled caverns beneath the prison proper, and the layout of said areas is similarly less straightforward than what was typically encountered in DA2 proper. While Legacy is still a fairly linear affair, it at least features more than one straight corridor after another stitched together. The expansion even includes a good number of wholly optional side areas to explore, many of which play a part in Legacy’s handful of similarly optional side-quests.
Combat also tends to be both more difficult and enjoyable in Legacy, with a number of interesting new enemy types, such as the Genlock Alpha whose large shield makes him nearly immune to frontal attacks, present to give players new challenges to deal with. The lack of repeated homogeneous dungeon layouts also lets Bioware be cleverer in the placement and makeup of enemy encounters. Frequent ambushes (in the form of enemies positioned so that they blend nearly seamlessly into the environment or by having a smaller force flee and draw the party into larger encounters) abound, while the expansion’s various sub-boss encounters tend to feature more varied tactics than simply throwing a bunch of random enemies at the party. The final boss encounter in Legacy is particularly noteworthy, and it is easily among (if not simply the) most difficult encounters to be had within the entirety of Dragon Age 2. To be fair, this difficulty does arise in part because the game’s finicky party A.I. can easily lead to defeat without careful management on the part of the player, but this is a relatively minor annoyance in light of how genuinely epic and fun this boss fight ultimately turns out to be.
All in all, Legacy is a highly enjoyable experience but that is not to say it does not have its fair share of flaws. Legacy never reaches the level of ambition or accomplishment that the best Mass Effect 2 expansions strived for, such as introducing new/unique gameplay elements or creating locations with an almost startling level beauty. While the aforementioned gameplay tweaks do improve thing to a degree, ultimately Legacy plays near identically to the way it progenitor did. Also, while the Warden’s Prison looks better than most DA2 dungeons did, it never reaches the level of visual design that Bioware was able to achieve during the exploration of the Atlas Station or the exterior of the Shadow Broker’s lair.
In essence how players will feel about Legacy will largely depend on their overall feelings about Dragon Age 2 in general. Personally, I walked away from my time with the expansion feeling like I got my money’s worth, but I also was someone who never found the weaknesses of DA2 ever came close to outweighing its strengths. For someone who absolutely hated DA2, Legacy will do little to change this opinion. On the other hand, for those who enjoyed DA2 but wished it had more closely resembled Dragon Age: Origins, then Legacy could very well be exactly the kind of experience the kind of expansion you are looking for. While Legacy never reaches the heights that such Bioware expansions as Lair of the Shadow Broker or Overlord did, it also never hits the lows of Witch Hunt or The Golems of Amgarrak either. It remains an enjoyable and robust three to four hour experience, one that also hopefully bodes well for whatever future Dragon Age 2 downloadable content is yet to come.
A review copy of this game was purchased on PC by the reviewer. The reviewer spent approximately four hours playing the game and the game was completed.Sage Reviews: Dragon Age II, 3.6 out of 5 based on 62 ratings
Without a doubt the DLC which serves as the role model to all overs from BioWare is Lair of the Shadow Broker: it adds to the story, plays a vital to a former squard member, has a plot which which is on par with the main plot, great visuals and music and gives the player quite a bit more once it is over.
Awakening also did it’s job well but it could benefit from having being extended but it’s good on it’s own merits. Owning a land, hiring recruits, taking care of the land, making the fort and forces more powerful and a chance to continue the story from origins was nice. But dealing with a conspiricy with various ways to do so was a woudnerful addition.
As for Legacy any reason to be in a freaking different area and fight different foes is a plus. While I don’t miss the overly complciated chess style of gameplay Origins had I feal that having faster combat a to higher price to pay when everything else gets croped to a bare skeleton.
I’m going to wait until DA2 comes down in price or releases a GOTY edition to see if the love/hate relationship is as deservedly ambivalent as it is.
Yeah,
Bioware said that they would fix the issues the “customers” have with DA II.
And what do we get? Where is the fix for the “normal” game? Not here I guess.
This is bullcrap, this is EA taking your money and you smile and throw your money at their feet.
The same thing that Joe stated for Capcom happens here and with EA in general. Really expensive DLC’s that should be in the main game, fixing issues that annoy the crap out of all gamers.
But what do they do? Nothing! And the retarded ones buy this crap, ruining Bioware, because its working as EA plans.
Biowares dead man. Sold out to EA, just like Blizzard to Activision.
the only thing that made me sad about this DLC is the warden mage armor it is UGLY >.<
Good DLC is hard to make for a story-driven game, because the story in a DLC will never have the epic length or scope of the main quest. This latest DA2 addition sounds decidedly “MEH,” and I may get Legacy provided it is bundled together with all the upcoming DLC in the inevitable “Game of the Year Edition.”
I hated Dragon Age 2. Worst $60 I spent all year. No way in hell I will pay for DLC for it. lol
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You waited for it, you played the demo, you finally got the game in your hand and AT LAST… LOL ?
Angry Joe and Jacob play the Dragon Age II demo and provide commentary on the
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Bioware used to be one of, if not my favorite developer. I adored the old KOTOR, and ME 1 was one of my favorite games of all time… they have been seriously going downhil lately though, around the time they went on over to EA i would say
Dragon age 1 was all kinds of fail. The game was broken IMO with a huge dexterity bug that NEVER GOT PATCHED FOR CONSOLES! I actually vowed to not finish it until it was patched, and they never did.. so, ya, I never beat that one. It actually soured me to Bioware and i did not pick up mass effect 2 because of it. Especially after i heard how they turned it more into an action game instead of an RPG. Now this comes along and it just looks.. meh. I did finally pick up mass effect 2 since it was 17 bucks, but i seriously doubt i will give this game a look.
I fear that by ME 3 comes along Bioware will be complete garbage. Maybe itll just be a FPS or something
By the way ive always wondered, is the vote on the top for if you like/dislike the game, or is it to vote on the review itself? I thought this review was pretty mediocre, not too much info given really.
Lazy, lazy, lazy review, nothing you couldn’t get from an EA website, spoilers everywhere, why did you even bother?
I really don’t know, I never have liked the dragon age games but have liked the Mass effect series. I guess I’m more a skyrim, oblivion fan…I guess
Skipped to 1:20 when the backround for the ignorant stops. BUt it continues later. I really prefer Joe’s review style. I don’t like hearing details that anyone with a cursory knowledge of the game already knows (like what classes you can choose). It sounds like filler or an introduction to the game as opposed to a review. What I want to hear are your insights from your playthrough. What did you encounter that you dis/liked and why?
My God Flemeth, what did they do to you!?
The same ridiculousness enchantment on the Qunari, I guess. The one that turned all the monsters into walking spikes and made most of the womens’ boobs inflate to epic proportions.
And by “women” you mean Isabella, and only Isabella.
And Bethany, and the main character, and…
Really? I only noticed Bethany having large breasts when Varric was telling his embellished version of the story. And, to be fair, in Origins Morrigan’s bust was way too big for a woman of her proportions.
According to pretty much everyone I’ve seen talk about the game on message boards this was a huge disappointment compared to Origins, even if it’s a good game on its own. Might have made a mistake preordering it. I’ll be waiting for more mods before I start my first playthrough.
Dragon Age 2 is surely a good game even if its different compared to first Dragon Age and has some flaws. But then again I was expecting it to be good game instead of being perfect game.
I also got the game and I enjoy it. Both Sage and Angry Joe do present the game accurratly.
Honestly it came out lil better then I expected because I knew this would be a step back in some ways before I preordered it.
Wow Sage, nice job putting the ending cutscene of the game in your review. :rolleyes:
Nobody would’ve known if you hadn’t said anything. -_-
Come on, the women being told the story to gives the book she caries from the begining of the game to lilleana from do:a? even people who only saw the opening movie or played the demo (like me) can see it’s a major spoiler!
It’s not really a spoiler at all. She may not even be there depending on stuff you did in DA:O
Save your money.. its not worth it. Or just torrent it like everyone else.
If you are RPG fan this is a must imo. It’s not perfect by no means, in comparison i have been trying to get in to Two Worlds 2 for some time, but immediately when i got dragon Age 2 i have not given it even a thought.
The UI is much more polished and there’s many small things fixed from the first one(PC) like Q and E keys making your char go sideways, but especially the story is not as good and some places like said on the review get repetitive. I would say the first one was better, but then Dragon Age is on my top 5 five best games i have played ever.
If you consider your self at least a bit experienced on RPG games, played through the first Dragon Age and know right away the drill remember to play at least in hard mode. It’s MUCH more satisfying and you will actually die quite a bit, but it never gets the kind of irritating that you are stuck at some part.
Its sad how every reviewer sucks bioware/ea ****.
This game is inferior to the original in every possible way, its a rush job to finance their Star Wars MMO which I hope fails.
Its so dumbed down it makes me want to scream…
Bioware sold-out a long time ago. Day one DLC, ain’t than wonderful?
I really scare heard how bioware took Mass effect system adapt to dragon age. It’s like the 1st one or the tactic,race possibility and everything else have been erased?
No!
Like i said here previously the figth(at least on PC) is still exactly the same. Just remember to play on hard.
Discussion is now the same as on Mass Effect 2 as your answers are no more a long text, but a reaction. I do consider it a improvement.
If you liked Dragon Age 1 you will like this one certainly. Is it as good? Maybe not, but in my opinion it’s by far the best RPG game still out now.
Did I just hear Kate Mulgrew voice acting? Guess Janeway resigned her admiralship to become a sorceress (which is completely in character for her).
In the first game, you also had Tuvok leading a settlement of elves.
I’ve never played Origins. Would it be best to go through it before Dragon Age 2? If so, is the Ultimate Edition worth my time?
You dont really need to have played origins to understand 2 but it helps for some things. You should still play origins though its really good no matter which system its on. Might as well get the ultimate edition to, itll save some cash on the dlc and the dlcs good to.
In my (seemingly insignificant minority) opinion the first game was the better game (at least for PC). The ultimate edition will be a good idea simply for the Shale DLC (the others were pretty weak for their individual costs, but worth it if bundled), especially if it includes the expansion (I don’t know that much about this edition).
I agree w/ all the things you said. I have not yet finished the game but from what I have played I have enjoyed. The down side of it being the lack of a main quest that goes though out the entire game. The cinematic flair for some of the side quests are very nice and I love how some powers like cone of cold get a nice new look. I’d put it at an 8.5 so far. Again haven’t quite gotten to the end yet but its Bioware so I don’t think my opinion will go down lower then that.
OK.
Not sure if I’ll be getting it though.