Posted By Geoff T. about 2 years, 3 months ago
UPDATE: Having contacted the recently reinstated v_ware on the BioWare forums, the full truth about this situation has finally come to light. It turns out that he did not post under the alias of “CorkonianCowboy,” as I suspected. Rather, he posted in that thread some time after google saved the cache. In the post in question, v_ware says he “just quoted [CorkonianCowboy] and called him a douche!” v_ware suspects that CorkonianCowboy must have then hit the report button, at which point the EA central moderators were alerted and the banhammer was swiftly brought down.
At the same time, CorkonianCowboy also sent v_ware the following private message:
CorkonianCowboy
6:07 AM 2011-03-09
looking at some of the posts youve read you have seen the spoiler ive mentioned yet you have a problem with me calling the mods out on it . Keep the picture and paste it on your mirror. But i suppose who can blame you as you are from Belgium.
This exposes another rather serious flaw in the way that EA at large moderates its forums: they don’t seem to check the context of reported posts. Admittedly, this is a problem for many sites, and mods often simply don’t have the time to check the context of every single post that gets reported, but when your system has the potential to “glitch” and lock players out of games that they have already paid for, you’d better be extra-careful when handing down bans.
v_ware seemed somewhat distraught at the revelation, as “[he] thought [he] did something wrong and admitted to it. But now it seems they have banned [him] for no reason.” Still, he ultimately seems content with being unbanned and having received a formal apology from the Senior Director of EA customer support.
And really, this reserved attitude strikes me as coming from a very healthy perspective. Yes, he got delayed in being able to play his brand-new game, and yes, it turns out he did nothing wrong in the first place, but it was ultimately a mistake on the part of EA, and not some kind of malicious attack on a paying customer. As long as they take steps to correct this problem in the future, there’s no reason to attack or defame them over it.
————–Original Post————–
The internet exploded yesterday with outrage over the banning of a BioWare forum member, who lost the ability to register his copy of Dragon Age 2 during his 72 hour suspension. The user reported through an alt-account that he had been banned for badmouthing EA, asking if BioWare had “sold [their] souls to the EA Devil.”
The free-speech-brigade over at Reddit immediately leaped to vware’s defense, accusing EA of censoring their detractors, and myriad gaming blogs and news sites swiftly followed suit. Many are now calling for a mass “boycott” of EA’s products, which is apparently code for “pirate all of their games and don’t feel guilty about it.”
Now, I’m as opposed to censorship as the next liberally-minded guy, and regardless of what else might be going on, it’s not cool to revoke (or in this case delay) a guy’s access to games he’s paid for when you ban him from your forums. That said, I’m never one to trust the mob mentality of the internet, as in general, the great hive-mind is quick to anger and slow at checking facts.
With that in mind, I did a little digging (by which I mean I Googled the quote from vware’s forum post) and came across what appears to be a cache of the original post.
In case the cache is updated, I took the liberty of screencapping the two most relevant posts in the thread:
It’s clear from these posts that the user was NOT banned for “complaining,” as the original poster on Reddit so eloquently put it. Rather, he was banned for directly and repeatedly insulting the moderators of the forum, calling them, among other things, “****ing fools.” [sic] Now, I’m not going to call the guy out on this, as in his original post he was forthright in saying he deserved his banning, but I am going to call out the people of the internet for blowing this way out of proportion and accusing EA of Orwellian censorship without first taking the time to check the rest of the story.
For the record, I do think it’s ridiculous to give the mods of forums (or anyone, for that matter) this kind of power. There should be a line drawn between taking away a user’s posting abilities and making it impossible for them to play games that they have paid for. The moderator who responded to vware’s post also did not help matters by calling the locking of play privileges an “added incentive to follow the rules.” This is certainly stupid, and something that EA and BioWare should fix posthaste, but at the same time, it’s not an example of them being “evil” or censoring dissenters.
It’s overreacting like this that makes the threat of boycotts and petitions from gamers virtually meaningless, which in turn makes them pretty much powerless when it comes to changing things that are actually important. We as a community need to pick our battles a little more carefully in the future, and put the research in to find out the truth behind the issues BEFORE working ourselves into a frenzy.

Actually I think this was an over site one Bioware’s part.
I’m not sure how it Dragon Age II works, or how it works for other systems but the registration works like this. When you register with Bioware you create a profile account. Anytime you save or what not the game uploads your save information to your profile so You can show of your characters, there progress, and your trophies or achievements, as you progress through the game, to anyone who clicks on your profile. Kinda works like my card down below but on a more detailed scale for biowares games.
It’s basically a face book kind of deal.
The problem is that account is the same one you use to access the forums, so when a mod puts on the ban list they end up also locking you out of your account. And since that account has all your registration information, well you get the picture.
The problem isn’t that Bioware deliberately gave there mods that kind of power, it’s that Bioware put it all on one profile. So its a coding over-site, one that I’m hoping they fix.
Course it seems that some of the mods realize the power that Bioware unintentionally gave them, and the fact that there willing to wield it like some purposely granted gift doesn’t help.
I’m really confused about this article. Did said user act like a complete ass or not on the forums? I know that it’s not right to take away paid property from someone but yet at the same time I don’t feel any sympathy for this guy. Why should I care about him? Could someone clarify this story?
I’m playing games from time to time… it could be relaxing for a moment!
In case you don’t know yet, you don’t buy and own games, you rent them. It’s a $60 one time rental charge that can be revoked from you at any time, for any petty reason. It’s been like this for at least 10 years. It’s also the reason I don’t buy anything from any company that requires an online connection.
your wrong there, it is rather that you own the right to play this game and somewhere in the ToS it says that they can revoke that right whenever they feel like it and you can’t get a refound
Hmmm, Ok I think I see where your going with this. See, if this was a multiplayer game that you play online, and you were making other players miserable, albeit by cheating or harassing them or using racial slurs an what not. Then the Administrators can block you from entering online play, even if you paid to play WoW or what not that doesn’t give you the right to ruin it for everyone else.
However Dragon Age II is a single player game, that is you not hurting anyone else or making anyone else miserable by being a prick when you play it. The online portion is only accessed for profile information which is used on your account as I mentioned above.
I’m a little shocked that Dragon Age II can lock someone out of their game entirely, isn’t there a way to play without accessing the account?
And again I don’t believe this was intentional by Bioware or EA, I think this was a programming over site, and there not paying close enough attention to what is going on at their forums.
7 people are living in denial.
There is a bit of bad research here or the guy is lieing out of his arse.
He says his suspended account is “v_ware” not this “corkonianCowboy” account you have gotten from the Cache.
Assuming that the “corkonianCowboy” account is actually run by the same person as “v_ware” (which would be difficult), he posted using the “corkonianCowboy” account because the “v_ware” account was banned.
Oops, I meant that it would be difficult to prove that both accounts were made by the same person, not that it would be difficult to have two accounts. Sorry about that.
I do hope this was just an oversight on the part of someone at EA and not in any way an intended practice. When you become an adult, playing games you bought with your money should not ever be a privilige to be revoked based on behaviour – it is a right, as a consumer, as a fan, and as a gamer.
It’s times like this that I’m glad I’m a console gamer, as much as I like bioware doesn’t this just prove the guys point about having sold their souls?
I think what people are too stupid to realize are:
1) EA Suspended his account, BioWare Admins and Moderators DID NOT HAVE A THING TO DO WITH THE SUSPENSION. This was an EA Community ban, meaning it effectively suspended his ACCOUNT from being anything EA, not just BioWare.
2) HE CAN STILL PLAY THE DAMNED GAME. What the guy can’t do is log into his main account which means he doesn’t have access to his DLC or the ability to get Chevo’s because they are registered to said account. In no way does this mean he can’t just log on WITH THE ACCOUNT HE JUST MADE to play the game or, hell, NOT LOG INTO AN ACCOUNT AT ALL. I think people have forgotten you DON’T need to be logged all the time just because a game has DRM. When installing it clearly says its a one time thing to check if the version on the computer is the real deal and has nothing to do with the actual account.
Ah that’s what I thought, still though he can’t download dlc, which is all single player stuff because he’s locked out of his account. What they need to do is somehow separate that information from the forums.
I think the guy got exactly what he deserves. If you go to see a movie and cause problems you get tossed out. If you insulted someone long enough to their face you would get punched.
Just because you are behind a wall of protection from most retaliatons on the internet doesn’t mean that there shouldnt be any.
Good to see someone overreacting like that…….in all seriousness its good to hear the whole story and this guy trashing the mods…yeah hes a douche but in all honesty he should not have had his games suspended through register. That’s me though.
It’s completely irrelevant what the user wrote, and if he called John Riccitiello (CEO of EA) himself his little bitch – it doesn’t matter.
You can revoke their posting abilities or just ban them, but destroying their property, their games for which they paid? That’s definitely not right, and I’m not even sure it’s legal, and the people are completely right to boycott EAs games for this.
But well, at least my belief, not to buy any software with DRM or online activations is proven to be right – like it was so often in the past. I just wish more people would see how stupid it is, to give the power over your own property away, and stop supporting this shit. Then the publishers wouldn’t have any other choice but to go back to offline copyright protections, of course without rootkits, so no shit like Starforce or SecuRom.
Yeah, i fully agree, man. I’m already doing my part, by not buying any games that require ‘Internet activation’, but i just wish that everybody else would do so too…
Moral: Play nice or don’t play at all. Wheel of morality moral: Tuna can make a wonderful after school treat.
That makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. Its either that, or severe internal bleeding.
Note to self, never buy the discount tuna or whatever your eating….
“posthaste”
if you cheat or hack in multiplayer games you should properly be baned for that but it needs to be proven. an admin should allways be able to ban you from there servers.
if you spoil the game for ppl or otherwise deserv a ban on the forums then that should only affect the forums. i can see a forums ban even going as far as making it so you can’t talk in the game aswell but that is as far as it can go
forum bans = talking gaming ban = cheating or hacking
it is not that hard
How?
Can’t he just go offline and play? Or am I too far from PC gaming to know something?
it’s called online DRM witch means you need to be conected to the internet, and you need to apply the code to an account and that account is baned so he can’t put in the code to play the game
As a moderator who would like a little more power (particularly over comments), i must say, it’s just fucking ludicrous to give us the power to prevent people from playing their games!
“For the record, I do think it’s ridiculous to give the mods of forums (or anyone, for that matter) this kind of power.”
This.
A buddy of mine I used to play BFBC2 with wound up getting banned from a server. He was working over the admin pretty bad, and they decided that since they were the server admin, and the best gamer ever, that my friend just *had* to be cheating. My buddy tells him off, and he subsequently gets smacked with the ban hammer.
Okay – whatever, server ban no biggie right? We’ll just go play somewhere else. No. Apparently the ban was propagated into the master server list for EA and he can’t login and play on any official server. He tried to have it overturned, but no luck. So *some guy* on *some server* has the power to ban someone from playing the multiplayer component of a game because he gets pissed off because someone is taking him to school? Complete and utter absurdity. Do I need to scale back my level of play so that I don’t offend some dolt who’s laid down a few bucks to run a server? Why should anyone have that kind of authority over the playerbase?
I do really like the ease of access that we’re getting with DLC for PCs and full games, as well as the integrated matching & browsing systems that make gaming so much easier; but there really needs to be some processes worked on to make sure that people are treated fairly.
In this case: sure, the guy was being a knob – forum ban appropriate – but even some total dildo deserves to be able to use the products he’s paid good money for.
That’s a disturbing turn of events as well. I’ve known many server admins that abuse their powers, so having someone like that make it impossible to play the game at all is ridiculous.
It’s ridiculous that the forum mods have the ability to do this. It really shouldn’t carry over to the game proper like that.
Having admins and moderators is a good thing, because (hopefully) they are trying to maintain a civil and entertaining server. The problem is that EA assumes that everyone is going to use their admin powers maturely. But of course there are going to be a few bad eggs that don’t because we are all human.
Which means that it is broken to give admins powers that have a scope beyond their own servers. The only way that you should get banned from the master server list is if you get banned from many servers (not that this system isn’t without its flaws).
I agree completely – there does need to be some kind of oversight however to make sure that the people we’d all like to be good & just in their use of power are just that.